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Why not join me in reading the Early Church Fathers? Darby thought they were 'a bin of trash.' Decide for yourself!
Monday, November 27, 2006
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6 comments:
Ezekiel said,
Great quote from Darby! You'd make a great journalist, even though you admire Darby, you don't mind presenting something he dislikes. I use to have friends in an Amish (or Anabaptist) type group, who had a great regard for the pre-Augustine early church fathers. Especially their pacifism and emphasis on separation from the state(and world), as well as self-denial (in particular they were fond of Tertullian and Clement of Rome). They lent me a book called "Will the Real Heretics Stand Up" by David Bercot. It had the idea the modern Christians should put more emphasis on the early church fathers, rather than the Reformers. Bercot said that the Anabaptists were the epitome of orthodoxy, not the Reformers. Also, John Wesley had a high regard for the early church fathers. I find in some points that the early church fathers are similar to Arminianism. Peace and grace.
Actually, I tend to agree with Darby that the Fathers wrote 'trash.' But they are worth reading by the serious student of theology (I am not sure I can call myself that!).
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Matthew
I do have a copy of David Bercott's "Dictionary of Early Christian Belief". It is such a useful resource for getting the views of the Ante-Nicene Fathers.
Ezekiel said,
I know you're KJO, but what do you think of Darby's translation of the Bible? I think it's dangerous for only one man to translate the Bible, because of a greater danger of unchecked bias. Thanks. Also, I'm currently reading William R. Newell's comm. on Rom. (which is excellent),and he often quotes Darby in his footnotes, particularily on positional truth.
Ezekiel said,
By the way, what do you think of Watchman Nee? I read one book by him years ago. I've heard both good and bad things about his teaching. Wasn't he a part of a "Brethren" group in China? Alva J. McClain, an excellent dispensational theologian, was also a part of another "Brethren" group, though I think they're rooted in Germany not England. He founded "Grace Theological Seminary" in Indiana. Have you ever heard of them? Thanks.
Darby Bible- Generally accurate and literal. Uses thou. Based on critical text, which is not so good. Uses name Jehovah in OT, so useful for witnessing to J.W.s.
Watchman Nee- very unsound. Had Docetic tendencies and authoritarian.
His group was called 'Little Flock'. Similar to Brethren, but not the same.
Nee was received into fellowship with the Raven/ Taylor Brethren, but they rejected him pretty quickly.
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Matthew
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