<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140</id><updated>2011-10-28T09:17:25.917-07:00</updated><category term='Church'/><category term='Popery'/><category term='Brethren history'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby Blog</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>78</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-1043852834971378336</id><published>2009-09-01T03:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-01T03:15:29.368-07:00</updated><title type='text'>My attention has been elsewhere</title><content type='html'>Lately I have been concentrating on my other blog:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-1043852834971378336?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/1043852834971378336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=1043852834971378336' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1043852834971378336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1043852834971378336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2009/09/my-attention-has-been-elsewhere.html' title='My attention has been elsewhere'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-4188973229091500360</id><published>2008-07-16T05:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-16T05:45:39.902-07:00</updated><title type='text'>God's Dwelling with Men, by J.N. Darby</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;By John Nelson Darby&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Revelation 21: 1-8&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this part of the chapter we have the end of all things, when the mediatorial work of Christ, even as king in subduing all things, is finished, and He has given up the kingdom that God may be all in all; when the final result is produced in the new heaven and the new earth; when the former things have passed away; when everything is in its own essential blessedness in the presence of God, and we have not only got blessing, but this in glory; it leads us in a peculiar manner to see the way in which the thought and counsel of God have been at all times to make man His dwelling-place. This is not always observed in Scripture; but when God's ways are brought out, and also particularly His holiness as it is said in the Psalms, "Holiness becometh thine house, O Lord, for ever," then we have the purpose of God unfolded to us to make man His dwelling-place; and therefore we find the goodness and love of God finally displayed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Behold the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God; and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes." The language is figurative, no doubt; but there is this full and complete effect of God's own dealing and working in the removal of everything that can create a pang. But there is more in this than that tears are wiped away: God shall do it. There is the compassion that has caused the removal of the sorrow, and this is more than that the sorrow is gone. It is God who has removed all. If the evil is gone and the sense of pain, it is God who has put them away from the heart. "And there shall be no more death, neither sorrow nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain." Not only has He taken away the evil, but it is never to be any more. That is, there is now full and perfect security and blessedness. All the evil is gone, and all those things too through which; man was exercised to bring him to a point where he could really meet God. The love of God takes the place of everything, and, filling all things with Himself, precludes the possibility of evil ever coming in again the contrast of man's paradise of old, as we all know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then come two great principles in verses 6, 7: "I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." First, there is the one who is athirst, and then the one who overcomes. These are the ways in which the Spirit works; and God always answers the workings of the Spirit. Whenever the Spirit acts in producing desires and wants (it may be at first after holiness or forgiveness, and then after communion and enjoying God), they are all perfectly satisfied in God. Therefore it is said, "I will give unto him that is athirst of - the fountain of the water of life." It is not merely, mark, the water of life that is given here; but there is given "of the fountain," that which springs up in the presence of God. What a thing to find! Thus the soul is perfectly satisfied with the fountain of blessedness for which he is thirsting, even God Himself, whom he is rendered capable of enjoying. He is at the wellspring. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second principle is that he that overcomes shall inherit. Here we find not desires satisfied, but difficulties overcome. It was so with Jesus Himself, as it is said, "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me on my throne, even as I also overcame and am set down with my Father on his throne." "He that overcometh shall inherit these things," as associated with Christ, "and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." He comes into immediate connection with God. In the one we have the satisfaction of spiritual wants, in the other the relationship wherein we stand. This is the general thought. Such is the state and condition of those spoken of; but there is another point which deserves to be enlarged on a little more, and that is the personal happiness found in it. There is no longer a Mediator, no longer the need of one; there is no more the need of mercy and grace found to help in the time of need. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we come a little closer, there are other things that claim attention. We have here, "Behold the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people," etc. His dwelling-place is with men. It is no more an individual or a national thing. Of course the wicked are put away; but God's dwelling-place is no longer with the Jews, but with men. And this too is to be noticed, that the church has a very peculiar place. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The thought of God was to be with men, dwelling and abiding with them. Christ dwelt here among men, but it was a short time, and now He is cast out; but that will be another thing. Nor will it be as He appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Even Christ's stay was to end; but not so the dwelling of God by-and-by. Neither is it simply men made blessed; but God will dwell with them. Such is the distinctive eternal character of blessing; but also the church is to possess it in a peculiar way, already remarked on in this passage. It is not life only, but the presence of God with men as His abiding-place to reveal Himself and bless them fully. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we look back at Adam and his dwelling-place, we shall not find this. God did not, could not, stay there. Man was then put under responsibility to see if God could stay there. The question of obedience had to be settled; and we know how it was settled. Man disobeyed and was cast out. The test was the stability of the creature; it was no question of divine work in grace. God, therefore, in no wise dwelt there. But on man's sin He revealed the assurance of the Second Man, the Lord from heaven. As the first man, Adam, had failed under the serpent's craft, the last Adam was to come and destroy his power. So said God when pronouncing on the serpent. There was this revelation; but the world went on so badly that the flood came and took them all away, save Noah and his family, whom God rescued in the ark.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet the next thing we hear of the world is that men set about in the plain of Shinar to defy God, centralise man, and possess the earth in their own might and for their own name; just as men will do by-and-by in a yet more daring way, but Jehovah will confound them also, as He did at Babel. Thus, we see, by His judgment, the world ordered into nations and tongues; and the very fact of the existence of different tongues shews that men are separated into nations. This took its rise at Babel; so that the children of men could no longer understand each other. And still there are these peoples and tongues, nations and families. Thus the world was settled then.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But another thing comes out: "The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham." He said, as it were, You must have done with all this: it is the world. You must leave your country, and kindred, and father's house. I must have a people in the world. This was the call of Abram. But though we hear of the calling of God, and the election of God, and the promises of God, we have no such thing as God dwelling with Abram or the patriarchs. We know, in fact, that Abram did not leave his father's home at once, though he did quit his country; in other words, he had not done with the flesh. But when Terah was dead, then he blessedly went on as a pilgrim, and God visited him in a lovely way, shewing him His goodness and grace; not, of course, in such spiritual depth and fulness as now, but brightly and beautifully, as in Genesis 17, 18. He was the olive-tree or stock of God, as we read in Romans 11. Still there was yet no dwelling-place for God. He visits and gives him the promises. This was all right so far as it went; and though Abraham's faith failed in Egypt, yet in the main he walked blessedly as a pilgrim. But though God visited him and talked with him, there was yet nothing of redemption seen as a ground-work for God to abide with men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At Egypt came the question which was to be the type of redemption: so mercy put the blood on the lintel as a figure of Christ. Then the children of Israel go through the Red Sea as the sign of the death and resurrection of Christ. Then we find redemption - the active intervention of God to make good the promises made. We have not now a promise of something to be given, but actual deliverance, as it is said in Exodus 19: 4: "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself." So it is said (1 Peter 3: 18), "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God." Not our poor vile bodies - they are not yet brought to God; but our souls are truly redeemed. A work has been wrought so absolute in its nature for the putting away of sin, that now there is not a single thing (morally I mean) between God and him who has part in it; and not only is there nothing in us by which sin can be imputed, but we have been brought nigh to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Say, are you brought nigh to God? You say, I am hoping to get there. Then you have not been brought there, for He does not bring half way. But Christ has brought us nigh to God. He represents us in the presence of God. The putting away of sin is accomplished, or it never can be, for Christ cannot die over again. The work is done, but also the people are brought out. All that hindered God having them is put away by blood-shedding; but also they are taken out of the condition in which they were and are brought to God, to "walk in the light as he is in the light." And so it is with the believer now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a very different thought to say, One day I hope to come, from saying, I am come. It is all grace: that we know. But now there is nothing between me and God - of course, there is the blessed Mediator - but I mean there is no evil; it is all cast into the depths of the sea; and we are in His presence "holy and without blame." And what is the consequence of this? That God can dwell among us and in us. If you look at Exodus 15: 2, you will see how He brings it out, consequent on their deliverance from Egypt, "The Lord is my strength and song and he is become my salvation; he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation." And in Exodus 29: 45, God declares that this was His own thought: "And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God, and they shall know that I am the Lord their God that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them; I am the Lord their God." This is just the language applied to the church. We shall see the church brought out later. But He brought Israel into the land to dwell among them, and He did dwell among them, as we know, for the Shechinah just means a tabernacle or dwelling-place of glory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We get this immense truth, which we are almost afraid to look in the face, that, when sin is put away and we are brought to God, He dwells in and among us. just as Solomon said, "But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee," 2 Chron. 6: 18. What a truth this is, that God has so perfectly sanctified the people in order to manifest Himself, that He comes and dwells among them! And where was Jehovah to dwell? In Israel; and all nations were to come there and see His glory; as it will be again in the latter day. It was all spoiled and corrupted: this is another thing; but it was set up that He might be inquired of by the nations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You will find another thing connected with this, that, except the setting apart of the sabbath, the first time holiness is spoken of is in Exodus 15. Every saint had it, of course, in his heart and ways; but it was not brought out before. But the moment they sing this at the Red Sea, "Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness," the command is, "Sanctify yourselves"; that is, walk in holiness. The great truth comes out that in redemption the person is brought to God. We also find these companion-truths that the people are sanctified fully, and God is dwelling among them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a people set apart for God, and what characterised them was His own dwelling among them. This itself is an immense truth. It is thoroughly followed out in Christianity, not in figure but in the reality of truth, through the true blood-shedding of the Lamb of God and perfect cleansing from sin, and real deliverance through the death and resurrection of Christ, whereby we are brought nigh to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But now another thing comes in, that where one gets this full blessedness is in Christ: not Christ in us (however true), but we in Him. And you will find this connected with the fact that He is dwelling with us. There is not a spot left on the man that is set apart as redeemed and purchased and perfected for ever, Christ having borne his sins in His work of redemption. The believer stands in all the efficacy of Christ's work. Suppose you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and your sins have not finally and definitely been put away, they never can be; or else Christ must die again, and He never can. But, blessed be God, He has put away sin, as we find in Hebrews 10: 11, "And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices which can never take away sins; but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins, for ever sat down on the right hand of God." He is not standing, but is set down, for the work is done. There we find perfect cleansing through the blood-shedding, as it was said to Israel, "When I see the blood, I will pass over you."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then we find another thing in the death and resurrection of Christ. I have One passed out of this world (of course, in spirit, He never was of it, this blessed, Holy One, but as to His actual presence here). He is gone as man into another scene, as risen, having passed through the Red Sea, or death, and gone to God as man. Thus we see not only the putting away of sin, but Christ entering into another scene; and now we see not only God dwelling with man, but man with God. Christ has gone into God's presence as the Redeemer, presenting Himself to God for us, and we stand in His presence in Christ. How is this? He sends the Holy Ghost as the Comforter, and our bodies are the temples of the Holy Ghost. We have this wonderful and blessed truth as the result of redemption accomplished and sin put away. We are partakers of the death and resurrection of Christ. He is gone into heaven presenting His own blood. We are cleansed, and our bodies the temple of the Holy Ghost, and thus we become individually His dwelling-place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is true again of the church of God, as it is said, "In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit," Eph. 2: 22. Thus the church of God became the habitation of God. This is a wonderful and blessed position, and we have it in a special manner by the Head being in heaven, as the Lord Himself said, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you," John 14: 20. This expresses our union with Christ; as it is said in Ephesians 5: 30, "We are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones." Such is the special and blessed character of the church. It is the habitation of God, and will be so till the day it is taken up to be with the Lord. This is indeed a wonderful thing, and shews us what manner of persons we ought to be in all holy conversation. The individual may fail, and the church of God may fail, and has failed, so as to have become the very seat of Satan (I mean those professing to be the church now); but this has not altered the truth that, wherever we find the true church, it is the habitation of God. It is not merely that life is there hidden as we get in Colossians, but manifested, as in Ephesians; it is brought out. It is the Holy Ghost in the individual man, though His presence may perhaps only be known by a groan. I am not speaking now of how all this has been corrupted and spoiled. This is truth also. But so is this other thing with regard to the individual, that Christ is in him, and he is in Christ. This is true of the church too, if it knows its place. It is more than being the mere dwelling-place of God. We have union with the Head in heaven. We are members individually, we are also collectively the body of Christ. Hence the exhortation, "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God"; and therefore, the church ought to be as a city set on a hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, we have here two things: first, God dwelling among us; and secondly, and what specially characterises the church, it is one with Christ. But let us follow farther. When we come to the kingdom, we have this union fully accomplished, being in heaven in the body. We go into our Father's house; not only does He dwell in us, but we have association with Christ - a place in the Father's house. I can say, the Head is in heaven, and He is going to take me there to His own dwelling-place; just as He taught us before He went up, "In my Father's house are many mansions . . . I go to prepare a place for you; and if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself." Not only so, but we have boldness to go there now in spirit; and He will come again and receive those whom now He is not ashamed to call brethren, when He comes to display His glory in connection with this world, and the heavenly Jerusalem becomes the dwelling-place of God. As John says, "I saw no temple therein."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Supposing, in order to explain things, there had been a temple, and God dwelling in it as among the Jews, there He was hidden, so that even the high priest could not go in but once a year; and even then none saw Him. Though glory was there, it was a glory which was hid. It was then in darkness, except what light the glory itself gave. Here "the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple." If I may so speak, His own glory is the temple. Therefore there is no light there; "The Lamb is the light thereof," or the lamp of it, as the word should be rendered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Behold the blessed picture of this in the transfiguration. We see Peter, James, and John, men on the earth; Moses, Elias, and Christ representing men in glory, and then they enter the Shechinah, which, I have no doubt, was the cloud which overshadowed them, of which they were afraid as they entered. As for Peter, he was so astonished that he did not know what to say, and proposed to build three tabernacles, where each could preside as three oracles. But then comes the excellent glory which overshadows them, and they hear the Father's voice saying, "This is my beloved Son, hear ye him." In this scene we see the three things which shall be in the kingdom. We find here (Rev. 21) the same thing, the heavenly Jerusalem coming down, and we have the purpose of God when all is done. We know that it is the church, for it is called the bride, the Lamb's wife, and only the church is suited to be thus associated with Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tabernacle of God will be with men. Not only He is with them, but there is the tabernacle, the church, and He dwells in it. Here is the full and blessed result of God dwelling with men, and also the tabernacle; for we shall have been taken up and given this heavenly character.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a great truth that there is even now the dwelling-place of God. It is not only that we have life and are happy in heaven, but here we are the habitation of God. Let me ask, What is the full fruit of redemption? God dwelling in us. And look at the practical effect of this. "The love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost," which is the only spring of our thoughts and feelings, so that nothing else can come in. And cannot we understand how holiness ensues? Of course it must, and divine judgment too, as it is said, "Judgment must begin at the house of God"; for nothing that defiles can be in His presence anywhere, and of all places not there where He dwells. Thus holiness is founded on redemption, being intimately connected with God's dwelling-place. You will see how all is founded on redemption. Adam innocent could not get it. He listened to Satan and ate the forbidden fruit, and so was driven out. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A new thing comes in - redemption. The Son of God came and brought the responsibility of man to its full, final, test. They would not have Him. He would not condemn till the iniquity was full; but when they rejected the Son, it was full. They afterwards despised the Holy Ghost, but at the cross it was full. Then comes in the fruit of redemption, taking man out of that scene of judgment by One glorifying God perfectly. Now that redemption is wrought, the sin is put out of God's sight and deliverance is given, which we enter into by faith; and those who are now brought to God by the power of redemption are not now as man under responsibility to answer for himself and find he is good for nothing, but through the work of Christ they are brought into the new creation; as it is said, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation," 2 Cor. 5: 17. He belongs not to the old creation (of course his body does; but I am not speaking of that: the man himself does not), but to the new creation, as it is said, "That we should be a kind of first-fruits of his creatures," James 1: 18. The church of God is such. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We see that God has not done some little good for us, but He has reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ. We have become His dwelling-place, and what do I find as to this holiness which comes in? I am not my own, I am bought with a price. I am sanctified to God, and I must bring the heavenly atmosphere to bear on my ways, habits, and feelings, and grow up unto Him in all things who is the Head, and know more of Christ every day. What a character of holiness belongs to the Christian and to the church of God! "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me ask you how you treat this divine guest. I am now speaking reverentially of God's presence. How often do you think of it in the day, that your bodies are the temples of the Holy Ghost? If the queen were to come, and for a time take up her abode with any of us, we should think of nothing else. I am now speaking of the respect which every person ought to feel towards her. Supposing I were to forget her presence, it would be a shame to me, and the fact of neglecting her would fill me with shame and bitterness. But what of the Holy Ghost who dwells in us? We think not of it half the day; we think of it, if we do all things so as to please the Lord. I am called to walk worthy of this; I must keep the temple pure. We fail, it is true, and then comes in the intercession of Christ. But such is the character that belongs to us. O, if our hearts only thought of it, His presence in us is far more blessed than when God dwelt in the temple! Though not so palpable, it is far more real. Do you believe that the Lord Jesus sent down the Comforter to dwell here? Of course, as God, He is everywhere. Do you believe that the Son came down? As God, He was everywhere, and yet He came down; and so with the Holy Ghost. He did come down, and where does He dwell? In our bodies and in the church of God. And what kind of persons ought these to be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where is He, the Holy Spirit? Has He gone and left the earth? No, blessed be God, and never will, till Christ comes and takes up the church, and then the Holy Ghost will be taken up too, though He will not, even then, cease working. But He is with us even now, and will be till then, unless we say that God has abandoned the earth, which is not true. Where, then, is the sign of His presence, the witness that He is here? There are no such things as miracles now, and I do not expect there will be again, except in the devil's power. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, practically, what are we to look for? We are to see how far we in heart, conduct, ways, spirit and manner, are walking on the earth in the power of the Spirit. Only let us see that all these things are the fruit of accomplished redemption. How could we talk so if we were only looking at ourselves? But the Holy Ghost comes as the seal and value of Christ's work. He produces fruit after, when He comes witnessing to the efficacy of Christ's work. just as the priests under the law were first washed with water, next sprinkled with blood, and then anointed with oil, the Spirit comes, not as the seal of the fruits He produces, but as the seal of Christ's work, and then the fruit follows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And thus it is we get peace. It is by the Spirit testifying to the efficacy of Christ's work. Being convicted of sin, we flee to Christ and submit to God's righteousness, looking at the value of Christ's blood; and then peace comes, the Holy Ghost being the witness and seal. And then the exhortation applies, "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed to the day of redemption." So it was with the children of Israel. It was not said to them, "See the progress you have made; see you have left Succoth; see you have packed up the dough in your troughs"; no, but "See the salvation of the Lord!" That which distinguishes the effect of redemption is the presence of the Holy Ghost; we enjoy it as the fruit of Christ's work. Is this your case? Do you believe that you are redeemed? You speak of Christ as the Redeemer. What has He done for you? Has He left you in Egypt? He has taken you out of it, if you are a believer, and He is gone into heaven, there to appear in the presence of God for us. All exercise of heart before we believe is to convince us that we are without strength. And what can we do? If we are really powerless, what can we do but "stand still and see the salvation of the Lord"? Then I can say, I am not in Egypt at all. I have got the journey through the wilderness, and exercises of heart there, and conflict in Canaan when I have left the wilderness, but always with the certainty of being redeemed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord give us to know that the place we hold on earth by redemption is to be the habitation of God through the Spirit individually, and as the church of God, and to feel "what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation," and that "holiness becometh" His "house for ever!" God will carry this on till the time of the new heaven and the new earth; and even then He speaks of the tabernacle of God being with men in connection with the place we have got into in Christ. The Lord give us to know by faith now that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost; that we are not our own, but bought with a price!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-4188973229091500360?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/4188973229091500360/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=4188973229091500360' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/4188973229091500360'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/4188973229091500360'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/07/gods-dwelling-with-men-by-jn-darby.html' title='&lt;em&gt;God&apos;s Dwelling with Men&lt;/em&gt;, by J.N. Darby'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-1685307540018782457</id><published>2008-07-16T05:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-16T05:40:42.230-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Lot's Choice: a word on Present Advantage, by J.N. Darby</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;By John Nelson Darby&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is much profitable instruction in tracing, in contrast, the characters of Lot and Abram. Both were saints of God, yet how different as to their walk! how different also as to their personal experiences in regard of peace, joy, and nearness to God! And there is ever this difference between a worldly-minded believer and one, through the grace of God, true-hearted. In the scriptural sense of the term (2 Pet. 2: 8), a "righteous man," Lot was "vexing his righteous soul from day to day." Abram walked before God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord cannot but be faithful to His people, still He does mark in their path that which is of faith and that which is not of faith, and Lot's trials are the consequences of his unbelief There is one thing very marked in his course throughout - great uncertainty and obscurity as to his path, and as to the judgment of God, because of not realizing that security in God which would have enabled him to walk straightforward, whilst there is no hesitation in things connected with this world. And it is thus with ourselves if we have not taken Christ for our portion heartily. Abram's was a thoroughly happy life - he had God for his portion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lot is seen rather as the companion in the walk of faith of those who have faith, than as one having and acting in the energy of faith himself. This characterizes his path from the beginning. Therefore, when put to the test, there is only weakness. In how many things do we act with those who have faith, before having it for ourselves! It was thus with the disciples of the Lord, and the moment they were put to the test there was weakness and failure. The soul will not stand, when sifted through temptation, if walking in the light of another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God's personal call of Abram at the first is mixed with a sort of unbelief in Abram, much like the reply in the gospel, "Lord, suffer me first to go home and bury my father." He sets out, but he takes Terah, his father, with him, and goes and lodges in Haran (he could not carry Terah with him into the land of Canaan). Now God had called Abram, but not Terah. He left everything except Terah, and entered into possession of nothing. But he tried to carry something with him which was not of God, and he could not. It is not until after Terah's death that he removes into Canaan, to where God had called him. (Compare chap. 12: 1 and Acts 7: 4) "So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him, and Lot went with him . . . they went forth to go into the land of Canaan, and into the land of Canaan they came."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lot (though having faith) goes in the path he treads as the companion of Abram. As to actual position, he stands with Abram. He is truly a saint of God, though afterwards we find him treading the crooked path of the world's policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God blesses them. The land is not able to bear them so that they may dwell together (chap. 13). They have flocks, and herds, and much cattle, and there is not room for them both - they must separate. Circumstances, no matter what (here it is God's blessings), reveal this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are in the place of strangers, that is clear ("the Canaanite and the Perizzite dwelled then in the land"). They have nothing in possession, "not so much as to put a foot upon"; all rests on their valuing the promises (Heb. 11: 9). They have just two things, the altar and the tent. Journeying about, and worshipping God, they are strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Abram confesses that he is such; he declares plainly that he seeks a country,* "wherefore," we are told, "God is not ashamed to be called their God." (He is never called "the God of Lot.") This acts upon the whole spirit and character of Abram.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*In chapter 12 Abram goes down into Egypt. This is evidently a mistake; for he comes back again to the place of the altar which he built at the first. He had no altar in Egypt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The land is not able to bear them that they may dwell together, there is a strife between their herdsmen, they must separate. Abram says, "Is not the whole land before thee?" take what thou wilt, do not let us quarrel "if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left" - the promise is my portion; I am a thorough stranger, the city of God is open in glory before me. His heart is upon the promises of God, and everything else is as nothing in comparison. It might seem a foolish thing to let Lot choose - to give up to Lot the right to do so is certainly his own; but his heart is elsewhere, his faith goes entirely free from earthly advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not so Lot; he lifts up his eyes* - the plain of Jordan is well watered everywhere, even as the garden of the Lord, and he chooses it. There is nothing gross or wrong in itself in his choosing a well-watered plain, but it just distinctly proves that his whole heart is not set upon the promises of God. Thus is he put to the test; and thus, in the way of the accomplishment of God's purposes, character is displayed. Abram's conduct has for its spring a simplicity of faith which embraces God's promises (Heb. 11: 13), and wants nothing besides. Faith can give up. The spirit of a carnal mind takes all it can get. Lot acts upon the present sense of what is pleasant and desirable; why should he not? what harm is there in the plains of Jordan? ** His heart is not on the promises.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*"And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: for all the land which thou seest, to thee I give it, and to thy seed after thee," etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;**A man says, What harm is there in the well-watered plains of Jordan? are they not the gift of Providence? I answer, The devil has planted Sodom in the midst of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The companion of Abram, he is brought to the level of his own faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But he will dwell in the cities of the plain if he chooses the rivers of the plain. It is not his intention to go into the city, but he will get there step by step. (He must find trouble in the place he has taken pleasure in.) There is not the power of faith to keep him from temptation. When there is not the faith that keeps the soul on the promises, there is not the faith to keep it out of sin. It is not insincerity, but people's souls are in that condition, and God proves them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abram's path all the way through is characterized by personal intimacy with God, constant intercourse with God, visits from God, the Lord comes to him, and explains His purposes, so that he is called the "friend of God" (2 Chr. 20: 7; Isa. 41: 8; James 2: 23); and this not only as to his own portion, but as to what God is going to do with Sodom - the judgment He is about to bring on - Sodom, though personally he has nothing to do with it, and the promise is his hope (chap. 18). So now He tells His people what He is going to do about the world. Though their hope is connected with their own views, with the promises, and the heavenly Canaan, He takes them into His confidence as to what is to happen where they are not to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lot the while is vexing his righteous soul - does he know anything about the purposes of God? Not a word. He is saved, yet so as by fire; though a "righteous soul," his is a vexed soul, instead of a soul in communion with God - vexed "from day to day" (there is, so far, right-mindedness that it is a vexed soul). He is there before the judgment comes with his soul vexed (whilst happy Abraham is on the mount holding conversation with God); and when it does come, how does it find him? with his soul vexed, and totally unprepared for it, instead of in communion with God about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptation," and He delivers "just Lot." But whilst thus vexing his righteous soul with their unlawful deeds, the men of the city have a right to say to him, 'What business have you here?' ("this one came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge," v. 9) - you are quarrelling with sin in the place of sin.' They have a perfect right to judge thus. All power of testimony is lost by reason of association with the world, when he ought to be witnessing to his total separation from it; there is vexation of spirit, but not power. When Abram got down into Egypt, he had nothing to do but to go right back to the place of the altar he had built at the first. Lot testifies, but he cannot get out of the place he is in; the energy that ought to have thrown him out is neutralized and lost by his getting into it; his daughters have married there; he has ties where his unbelief has led him. It is far more difficult to tread the up-hill road than the down-hill road.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whenever the counsels of God are revealed to faith, it brings out the spirit of intercession. The word to the prophet, "Make the heart of this people fat" (Isa. 6), at once brings out, "O Lord, how long!" So here Abraham pleads with the Lord to spare the city. (But there are not ten - there is not one righteous man in Sodom, with the exception of Lot.) As regards his own position, he is looking down upon the place of judgment. And in the morning, when the cities are in flames, he finds himself in quietness and peace on the spot where he "stood before the Lord" (v. 27), not at all in the place where the judgment had come, solemnized, indeed, by the scene before him, but calm and happy with the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord sends Lot out of the midst of the overthrow. Angels warn him, and faith makes him listen. But his heart is there still. There are connections that bind him to Sodom, and he would fain take them with him. But you cannot take anything with you for God out of Sodom, you must leave it all behind. The Lord must put the pain where you find the pleasure. "While he yet lingered"; there is hesitation and lingering in the place of judgment, when the judgment has been pronounced; he ought to have left it at once; but the place, and path, and spirit of unbelief, enervate the heart - "the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters" - the Lord being merciful unto him - "and they brought him forth, and set him without the city." And now it is, "Escape for thy life, look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain, escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed," v. 17. As for the goods, the sheep, and the much cattle, he must leave them all behind. If the Lord's faithfulness is shewn in saving Lot, it is shewn also in breaking the links that bind him to the place. His mind is all distraction; he says, "Oh, not so, my Lord. I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die." He has lost the sense of security in the path of faith. Such is ever the consequence of the path of unbelief in a saint of God, he thinks the path of faith the most dangerous path in the world. Lot has become used to the plain, and the mountain (the place where Abraham is enjoying perfect security and peace) is a mountain. The Lord spares Zoar at his request, and lets him flee thither, but on seeing the judgment, he flees to the mountain, forced to take refuge there in the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is an extreme case; we shall find the same thing true in various degrees. Abraham could give up (that sacrifice always belongs to faith); but there are trials to the believer because of unbelief - because he is a believer, but in a wrong place. Lot was a "righteous man"; but when he did not walk in the path of faith, he had vexation of soul and trouble - a righteous soul, but where a righteous soul ought not to be. Observe his incapacity simply to follow the Lord. Observe also his uncertainty. So will it be with us, if we are walking in the path of unbelief, there will be trouble which is not our proper portion, but which comes upon us because we are in a wrong worldly place, the trial that belongs to unbelief. We may be seeking the compassion of the church of God, when we are only suffering, like Lot, the fruit of our own unbelief - the simple path of faith having been departed from, because we had not learned to count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus our Lord. Giving up is our proper position, simple sacrifice, in the knowledge and present consciousness that "all things are ours." But the promise is "a hundredfold more in this present world," and that is not vexation of spirit.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-1685307540018782457?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/1685307540018782457/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=1685307540018782457' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1685307540018782457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1685307540018782457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/07/lots-choice-word-on-present-advantage.html' title='&lt;em&gt;Lot&apos;s Choice: a word on Present Advantage&lt;/em&gt;, by J.N. Darby'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-4452992896949329600</id><published>2008-07-03T05:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-03T05:28:59.618-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Wheat and the Tares</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is something wonderfully gracious in the way the Lord waits upon His people to instruct them: it is calculated to draw out the affections and the minds of believers in love and gratitude. But how often have they cause for shame, that the occupations of their minds and hearts render them insensible to the various ways, means, and methods in which a God of love teaches them!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is blessing them all the way, and His mercy is exercised even in their wants. Do they feel and bewail their ingratitude and ignorance? Who teaches like God? His wisdom is the saint's portion. Are they bowed down under a consciousness of weakness and of bondage? "My strength is made perfect in weakness," and thus, in every way, He exactly suits Himself to their several necessities. He never withdraws His care; He never turns aside from them; still doing them good; and, though they may be fearful and fainting, His love is still manifested. Jesus is the fountain of all blessedness, sent to poor, weak, wretched sinners, that they may have abundance of comfort, of peace, and of enjoyment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The knowledge of this knits and attaches the heart of the poor sinner to such a rich Saviour - makes him find that the way the Lord has led him has displayed to him the character of the God who thus instructs him, that his very sorrows and trials are a manifested proof of God's free love and favour, as succeeding circumstances display the riches of divine grace. The way in which He leads us, the particular circumstances in which we are placed, the situations we are in, are all so many methods and means of divine instruction planned by a God of love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The believer longs for rest from all that now offends, but God leaves him here to teach him many lessons. This world, constituted as it is at present, is a means by which God teaches us what we could not learn in a world of glory: the believer is instructed in the long-suffering, patience, and love of God, in a way he never could have known elsewhere; his wants, his weakness, his barrenness, his deadness, display most touchingly the wonderful patience of God. And here too he learns the astonishing proofs of God's love in Christ; giving Him for such sinners that they may be pardoned and freed; learning what God is, in the Person of Jesus Christ, through all the particular circumstances in which they are placed, notwithstanding all our weakness, short-comings, and misdeeds. There is no feeling of hostility in God's mind toward us - not even an impatient word or look; all is love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is in the weakness and wants of His children that God's manner of love is even more drawn out, as the Father of a family: the affections of a parent are the same for all his children, but under different circumstances is differently manifested: the long and weak childhood of a child calls forth all the tender sympathy and watchful care of a parent, and knits the affections of a child to him. So the Lord, amidst our weakness and infantine helplessness, guards us, watches over us; and thus we come to learn the manner of God's love. Then, as we advance under the watchful care and training, and arrive towards maturity, we learn the blessedness of His love, and we come to discern how the Lord opens out the knowledge of Himself, putting us into a position of wondrous blessedness. "Henceforth I call you not servants, for the servant knoweth not what his Lord doeth; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the manner and blessedness of God's love to us; and if the believer is insensible to this, he is in a sadly low state; for nothing so much evidences the soul's not being in a healthful state, as to be insensible to the manner of God's love toward us, to be engrossed with what is about us here, and not to be sensible that we are nearer to God than we are even to the circumstances in which we are placed. How wondrous to behold God taking pleasure in opening out His mind and His plans to man! which we see evidenced in this thirteenth chapter of Matthew, as in the explanation to His disciples of the parables spoken to the multitude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We find here seven parables, which have been before noticed, but the order of which it would be well to remark again. The first parable is not a comparison or likeness of the kingdom of heaven, as the others, but a declaration of the agency of the kingdom, and of its particular results - the act described as being incidental to the Son of man before His ascension, and its results also, such as might be exhibited in individuals before as well as after it. The kingdom of heaven was subsequent to this, and consequent on Christ's resurrection, when a new system of things was about to be established.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other six parables were not spoken at the same time: three were addressed to the multitude, and three to the disciples alone. Of these the first three exhibit the public character and result of this kingdom in the world; and the last three symbolised its intrinsic value, and the full development and results in God's hands. The former fully developed its ostensible and visible manifestation as seen in the world, and the latter, the real value of the thing itself as known in the mind of God. This expression, "kingdom of heaven," as well as "the kingdom of your Father," is peculiar to the Gospel of Matthew, the Gospel more especially of dispensation and prophetic testimony.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In what situation then is the believer while here? Holding communion with an absent Lord in heaven - brought into His family here - into His kingdom, and taught, not to look for blessings simply upon earth during his Lord's absence, but to look for a time when His saints shall know Him even as they are known, and shall never be absent from Him. That is what they are looking for, and into that situation they have been brought as the "good seed," partakers of the grace of that "corn of wheat," which fell into the ground and died, that they might live.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that sowed good seed in his field." And from verses 24-30 and 36-45, we have the parable and its signification, as explained by the Lord Himself. These things speak their own meaning: therefore they are simply brought before us as matters of fact. He says, as putting any other construction aside, "The field is the world." In these parabolical expressions there is a perfect harmony and conformity of meaning: if we can clearly ascertain the meaning by scripture light in one, we can readily imagine the same meaning of the same word in any other place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now our Saviour said expressly, "The field is the world": this is its meaning, and no other, which brings before us the theatre or the scene where the transaction recorded here takes place - "the world." It presents us with the view of a person sowing good seed in his field; he that sowed the good seed is the Son of man, the Lord Jesus Christ. He sowed it. It was good seed He sowed, and He sowed it in His field; and this is the world. He was entitled to this field; it belonged to Him. This then is the simple fact: the world was the field; the field belonged to Jesus, and He sowed good seed in it - something that had not previously been in it - a something planted which was not indigenous to the soil. Manifestly then it could not be the Jewish nation or system, for that was placed previous to the period, here alluded to, of the work of the Son of man. The world which is here mentioned is spoken of as a place, not where the seed had been sown and grown up, but where good seed, not yet planted, was now to be put in; and this then is in the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let the child of God now look around him, and see whether (with the exception of those who have been manifestly brought into this new system) he sees anything of this good seed in the world; does it look like a field sown with good seed? In how far it resembles it, those who know the character of such as now possess the world can best tell. The world then is His - the Son of man's field. Thus this baffles the wisdom and power of those who pretend to claim any portion of it as their own, and who seek to have it all, and are described as saying, "This is the heir: come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours." It is not theirs - it is Christ's: His by an indefeasible right - by an indisputable title His.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This indeed, when once established, is calculated to overthrow the pride of vain man, who puts in his pretensions for a share; who calls the world his own; but it is not, it is Christ's; and every one who takes it as his own individual right is meddling with things which belong not to him, and of which he must give an account to the rightful owner. The world then is this field, and the field is Christ's. "While men slept, his enemy came, and sowed tares among the wheat." Here we have the character and circumstances under which this change came about; these men - these field labourers - were put in trust, and the enemy brought in the evil seed while these men slept.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, how little are men aware of the indefatigable perseverance of the enemy of souls! it is while men sleep he does the mischief. It may not for a time be manifested; but he has sown it, and it will soon spring up. Satan is not hindered even by the good seed being there: "for when the blade sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also." God does certainly overrule it for His people's good; but the fact is there, that tares have been sown and spring up. They may not be seen immediately; but still they are in the ground, and much of it is occupied by them. The men slept; the enemy entered unperceived, sowed the tares among the wheat, and then went his way, having done the mischief. And the man who cannot see that these tares are now occupying the ground, and springing up, must be wanting indeed in spiritual discernment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what need have we of continual jealous watchfulness, that the ground be not more overrun with them! what need to be awake, to be sensible of the position we are in! that there is a positive separation between the wheat and the tares! that there is a wall of everlasting demarcation between them, and that we are not sensible enough of this! Does not sad and bitter experience testify that there is much moral evil countenanced? that there is a very bad and low state tolerated among believers? that there is a mixing up of the world with the things of God, an apparent shrinking and withdrawing from the Lord's work? Do we look for the cause? We find the whole of it here: the men slept, and let in the enemy; but it was His enemy, as the Psalmist says, "Remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord makes His cause and His people's one; they are His, and therefore their enemy is His. He calls them "brethren": "I will declare thy name unto my brethren." The saints of God get much courage from this declaration, when they know that the battle is in the Lord's hand. The saints look on this little word, "His enemy," with great delight. If sensible of our deficiencies and failings, and conscious that, while we slept, the enemy came in, yet let us look to the Lord; even though filled with shame in ourselves, yet let us look to the remedy, and we shall learn here, by this one little word, that it is His enemy, and, consequently, we have the strength of Christ against him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"When the blade sprung up, then appeared the tares." This was the successful result of the enemy's work; they sprung up together. There was not at first any outward distinction; they were all mixed up together. There was no remedy for that, as regarded the present state of things; instantly to set the world right was not in the mind of God. Man was found a faithless steward; he had been negligent, and let in the enemy, and the field was found overrun with tares; but God's plans were not frustrated by it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The servants come and say, "Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?" He said, "An enemy hath done this." The Son of God looked down at His field which He had sowed with good seed, and found it filled with tares: but, though in that position, we find it is not the wisdom of God to set the world to rights by plucking up the tares. The servants said, "Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?" This is according to man's wisdom, who would set the world to rights again by plucking up and rooting out heretics, and purging out the wickedness according to their own desire. "Nay," said the Lord, there are circumstances existing at present which made this proposal impossible to be acceded to; they are now together, and let them both grow together. If I were to give you power now to pluck up the tares, you might unconsciously root up the wheat with them, which cannot be; "let both grow together until the harvest."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord has graciously explained the meaning of the word in verse 39: "The harvest is the end of the world." The term "world" here is not the same word as that used previously, where it is said, "the field is the world." This unquestionably is (as the literal translation signifies) the age, or dispensation, and should be read, "the harvest is the end of the age." In the first instance where it is used, it renders the meaning simply "the world," which is the scene of this great transaction. It is quite unconnected with the idea of peace, and conveys the time when it was to be thus manifested - at the end of the age or dispensation, and "at the time of the harvest." Says the Lord, "I will say to the reapers [that is, after both are grown up, fit for the operation], Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now this presents us first with the view of the gathering together of the tares in bundles for the purpose of being burnt, and then the gathering of the wheat into the barn. After this is the destruction of the tares, as explained by our Lord: "As, therefore, the tares are gathered together and burnt in the fire, so shall it be at the end of this age: the Son of man shall send forth his angels [His messengers, ministers, and ambassadors of His purposes in providence], and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity, and shall cast them into a furnace of fire." And, after that (that is, after the burning of the tares), "then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the order: The tares are gathered in bundles to be burned; the wheat is lodged in the barn; the destruction of the tares, or their entire consumption, then takes place; and, finally, after their destruction, "then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the third parable, spoken to His disciples alone, we find the Lord using terms analogous to these: The angels dividing the two parties which were hitherto mixed up together, gathering the good into vessels, and casting the bad away and destroying them; and then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. This brings before us the unhindered blessedness of the children of God - of those who are alive to God. That time is coming; and it is a thing greatly longed for by the saints. The present position of the world makes it known to them. They see that the tares are ripening fast in iniquity, ready for the destruction; and they see the ripening of the saints of God; and, though now apparently and sadly undistinguished, the Lord is ripening them for the harvest and will gather them in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tares are making their progress, being brought together ripe for destruction. Though they may think it is well, and no fear is to overtake them, yet certain and sudden vengeance awaits them. They say, and act on it, that it will not come; but God is true, and His word shall come to pass. Read Rev. 14: 14-20. There are the tares then ripening, thinking no harm shall happen unto them; strengthening themselves in their iniquity, and counting the very providence of God (their being bound together in bundles) the very occasion of their strength and power, which is to prove their utter destruction. "The heathen are sunk down in the pit which they made." "Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not go unpunished." The wheat are not left in the world in the great day; they are gathered into the barn; they are taken out of the way, "caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air." They witness the destruction of the Lord's enemies; and "then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we behold the blessedness of the child of God, and the perfect character of that blessedness which the future results of God's love will evidence. Just remember that everything that offends has been cast out; all iniquity burnt up, destroyed; the saints safely housed in the barn; and then shall they shine - observe, "then shall the righteous shine" - they are the righteous. But who are the righteous? Those who are one with Christ: His character is brought forward as "the Lord our righteousness," and "the Sun of righteousness." "He shall be as the light of the morning when the sun riseth, even a morning without clouds; as the tender grass springing out of the earth, by clear shining after rain." 2 Sam. 23: 4. And in these last words of David we have, along with the description of the glory of the Lord at His coming, a view of the destruction of the wicked: it is a similar passage to the one in the text, and refers to the same event. "But the sons of Belial [that is, the children of the wicked one] shall be all of them as thorns thrust away, because they cannot be taken with hands" - that is, they cannot be drawn by the teaching and beseeching of man to come to the right. "But the man that shall touch them must be fenced with iron and the staff of a spear; and they shall be utterly burned with fire in the same place" (v. 6, 7), that is, in the same place where they are, similar to the burning of the tares.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christ is the Sun of righteousness, and therefore they are righteousness; He is the Sun, and therefore they shine as the sun: "When he shall appear, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is," and we shall be made like unto Him. This blessedness was contemplated and spoken of by God's saints of old. We have it in the words of David: "As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied when I awake with thy likeness." That was what he was looking forward to - to shine as the sun, as the righteous; to see God's honour vindicated, Satan and his powers cast out, and all God's enemies destroyed, and he himself bearing Christ's likeness; then he would be satisfied. And Paul also expresses himself strongly: "If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection from the dead"; when I shall see Christ as He is, and be like Him, shining as the sun, as the Sun of righteousness. That is what I now see in Spirit, and that is what I now believe in faith, and that is what I am just looking for, to be like Jesus in His kingdom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there in you, dear brethren, this earnest breathing after this glory? this sensibility of enjoying these things? Oh, they are calculated to bring much joy - very real and deep comfort - to know that we shall shine as the sun, when the clouds of vengeance, which now threaten an ungodly world, shall have been discharged in just judgment on them: when these clouds shall then be carried away and dispersed, and all iniquity cast out, then shall the righteous flourish; then comes his time of much delight!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brethren, are not these things calculated to rejoice the heart of the believer? Further remark that it is said, "In the kingdom of their Father." Here is great blessedness to the child of God in this appropriating word of happiness. It shews the position in which the Lord Jesus has placed them - associated with God as their Father, in His kingdom. We see the mighty result; not only that they shall be righteous - shall shine as the Sun of righteousness, but be brought into their Father's house. "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you; I go to prepare a place for you." He unites Himself to them as one calling them brethren, calling them to look up to God as their Father: "I will declare thy name unto my brethren"; and again, "I go to my Father, and your Father; to my God, and your God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are two things which in anticipation minister great comfort to all believers; they shall see the Saviour whom here they loved, and they shall be found in Him, participating in His glory, and like Him. This is what they should be rejoicing in, pressing towards, and looking for. If then indeed ye are children of God, what is grieving you? Think of your high privileges: "We shall see him as he is," "be like him," in the presence of the Father, in His house, in the kingdom of our Father, having fellowship with Him everlastingly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the portion of the child of God, a portion we are called on to rejoice in, even here, for it is ours; it is an inheritance reserved for us, and we are reserved to shine as the sun in the kingdom of our Father.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Church will not always have to mourn an absent Lord. He will come to claim His bride - to take her to Himself, that where He is, she may be also: so He prays, "Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am": and in Him she is complete; for the Father gave Him to be "head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all." Here then is the position of the church with Christ; one body, one mind, one in all things, one in tastes, one in desires.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Believers thus taste the Father's love most blessedly by beholding the Lord so sacrificing Himself as to bring this love to them, purchased for their enjoyment and inheritance. They feel the Father's love: "I say not unto you, I will pray the Father for you; for the Father himself loveth you." If we are believers, let us raise our thoughts to the bliss that awaits us, and not be sinking to the bottom, or floating on the surface of spiritual enjoyment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is no matter what are your circumstances here, what are your cares or your conflicts; it is but for a moment; the portion of the saints is to rejoice. But what is it that you are bowed down for? Is it a feeling of your own weakness? Why, the very "joy of the Lord is your strength." Why are you in affliction? What is it that keeps you down? Is it the world of sin? That is your enemy; and that it is your enemy is the cause of the greatest rejoicing: this is your confidence, and should be your delight, that it is a conquered enemy. If you feel it is your enemy, you know it is His enemy, and then you are brought into the same position with the Lord Jesus; on one side with Him, fighting one common enemy. Jesus warned His disciples of this trouble, but promised them His peace - promised to be with them by the Spirit, and testified to them the result of all the work He was doing for them: "I have overcome the world." Think, if you be of them who are thus loved and thus made happy here, what happiness yet awaits you when you shall shine like the sun in the kingdom of your Father! Blessed indeed shall we be in that day, when "we shall see him as he is"; first, "be like him," and then "see him as he is." Oh, the blessedness! when, after all troubles and conflicts are over, we shall "awake in his likeness."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Believers, is there nothing in this to quicken your joy in meeting Jesus? Is there nothing in this to throw contempt upon the world, and its unmeaning joys? The soul that loves Jesus loves one who has conquered all his enemies; "He that ascended far above all heavens, that he might fill all things." In this is the Son of God's love manifested, in that He humbled Himself to descend to the children of men, to bear their iniquity, to carry their sorrows and troubles, to minister to their joys and comforts, and to bear away sin from them for ever! And their joy and confidence is, that the same Lord has ascended on high, having "led captivity captive" - having destroyed His and their enemy: "Be of good cheer, I have overcome the world."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it any comfort to you, that the wisdom of God will soon be seen in the world, to the destruction of all that oppose it? Would you like to have the world thus sifted, and all iniquity purged out? Would it rejoice your heart to hear that Jesus was now coming? In fact, would you like Him to come now? Oh! how sad, how very sad is it, that, when He is just about to come, and His saints about to be made entirely like Him, they should be mixed up in any way with the workers of iniquity, practising their habits, pursuits, or satisfactions!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray, brethren, that you may be led to a more simple and entire conformity to the image of your Saviour; that you may be cleansed from the unsatisfying and unsanctifying desires of the world, so that you may be ready to meet your Lord at His appearing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-4452992896949329600?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/4452992896949329600/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=4452992896949329600' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/4452992896949329600'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/4452992896949329600'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/07/jn-darby-on-wheat-and-tares.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Wheat and the Tares'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-1330738637739842517</id><published>2008-06-30T07:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T07:58:14.832-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the need for tolerance on the subject of baptism</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The ‘Record’ speaks of its objection to the ‘Brethren’s’ dogma on baptism. I do know what is its object in this; but I must be allowed to say, the ‘Brethren’ have no dogma on baptism. Had they, they would have given up their first principles, and I for one could not be among them: first, because they would be at once sectarian, united on a particular opinion; and, secondly, that I have no such dogma. I know well that many have Baptist views on this subject; but many, very many, have not: many are decidedly opposed to it; I for one. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N. Darby, &lt;em&gt;A Letter on the Righteousness of God&lt;/em&gt;, in Collected Writings, vol.7, p.343&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-1330738637739842517?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/1330738637739842517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=1330738637739842517' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1330738637739842517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1330738637739842517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/06/jn-darby-on-need-for-tolerance-on.html' title='J.N. Darby on the need for tolerance on the subject of baptism'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-3930665638606850757</id><published>2008-06-30T07:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-30T07:52:52.930-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the unity among the Brethren</title><content type='html'>J.N. Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;You charge us with having Baptists, Paedobaptists, Arminians and Calvinists, Millennarians and Anti-Millennarians, and even Quaker. Well, are there not Paedobaptists, Arminians, Calvinists, Millennarians, Anti-Millennarians in the Establishment too? And Quakers have been received there too: also they have been with us, and have been baptized as became them from the circumstances they were placed in. The only difference, then, on the point, is as to the existence of these views in the minds of those amongst us. They being real Christians, we should undoubtedly feel it wrong to shut them out,and rejoice we can walk together in love. There is only this additional difference, that there is not, through mercy, amongst us a vast body of members who have no faith at all. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N. Darby, &lt;em&gt;The Claims of the Church of England Considered&lt;/em&gt;, in Collected Writings, vol.14, p.216&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-3930665638606850757?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/3930665638606850757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=3930665638606850757' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/3930665638606850757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/3930665638606850757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/06/jn-darby-on-unity-among-brethren.html' title='J.N. Darby on the unity among the Brethren'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-3059488221824396123</id><published>2008-06-05T09:05:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-05T09:07:35.861-07:00</updated><title type='text'>JN Darby on Psalm 17</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Psalm 17 considers this life practically here below and in respect to its difficulties with man opposed to what is right. The state of the soul is still marked by entire dependence on God, but, as to integrity towards God, and as against man, the soul can plead righteousness. Still it does not avenge itself, but casts itself entirely on God, and thus gets the fruits of His righteous dealings. This is a great secret of practical wisdom not avenging self - the patience of the new life in the midst of evil, and looking, and leaving all to God. This supposes the righteous path as man of the divine life, which therefore can appeal to God's necessary judgment about it, knowing what He is, and also trusting in Him; but even here deliverance is sought, not vengeance, only the disappointing the plans of wickedness. If we have not walked uprightly, still confidence in God is our true place. He spares and restores in mercy most graciously; but this, though other psalms take it up, is not the subject of this psalm. Here it is the righteous life which God looks at and vindicates against the men of this world, for it is Christ, and Christians as far as they live the life of Christ. Immediately, as ever, it is Christ and the remnant. Jehovah hears the righteous, and the prayer which goes not out of feigned lips.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remark, that in this psalm the life of Christ is supposed and found to meet opposition, and oppression in the world from the men of this world. We have seen how separated it was, associated with the excellent of the earth, passing as a stranger through it, though humanly in it. But then faith - and this shews how entirely Jehovah is still looked to - sees that the men of this world are the men of God's hand. They serve to prove the heart, and, in us who are ever in danger to slip into the world, to keep us strangers in it. Still God delivers from them, Christ, for blessed reasons, was not delivered, yet as freely giving Himself. The heart has the sense of righteousness here, and hence counts on deliverance; but there is no spirit of vengeance. It is the Spirit of Christ Himself, and hence above the spirit of the remnant, and much more the Christian spirit. There is the consciousness of righteousness and of integrity, but entire dependence on the Lord in respect of it, not as regards justification - it is not the question here - but confidence. "I know nothing of myself," says Paul, "yet am I not hereby justified." Again, "if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence towards God." So Jesus: "The Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him." There is the consciousness of righteousness and confidence in God. And the heart appeals to Him, because of righteousness. And all this is right, thinks rightly of God, and trusts to God that He will not be inconsistent with Himself, and cannot be. If there be desire of vengeance, we have sunk below this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Practical Reflections on the Psalms&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-3059488221824396123?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/3059488221824396123/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=3059488221824396123' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/3059488221824396123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/3059488221824396123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/06/jn-darby-on-psalm-17.html' title='JN Darby on Psalm 17'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-8031147340376067913</id><published>2008-06-05T08:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:41:30.950-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><title type='text'>The "Notes on Leviticus" and the "Quarterly Journal of Prophecy," by J. N. Darby</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;The "Notes on Leviticus" and the "Quarterly Journal of Prophecy."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By John Nelson Darby&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was, for its own purposes, a well-devised law in France which, to destroy the influence of the press, made the writer of every article sign his name to it. That told its value. We are freer here, and I cannot regret it. But singular effects and discoveries would be made if every one were bound to put his name to his commentaries on his neighbour or on his brethren.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article in the "Quarterly Journal of Prophecy," which has led me to make this remark, is however characterized by its contents without any name at all. Charity calls upon me to suppose it is a brother, though his paper takes, alas! the form of accusing those whom he does not deny to be brethren. He may be assured that, reviled, they are not going to revile again. I should not have noticed at all the article on account of the attack contained in it. On no ground would I do so; and it seems to me that this attack will, for every mind that has a trace of nobleness in it, carry its own answer with it, or will find it in the bosom of one who is morally above the spirit in which it is conceived. I take notice of it because it is one of a series attacking doctrines — doctrines which I, for my part, admit and regard very important points: some reaching even to the personal glory of Christ; others, to the true christian liberty of the disciples of the Lord. The attack on doctrine is not made on the writer of these lines. He treats it as a subject of common interest to all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will first venture some short words of counsel to the brother who is the author of the article. I regret that Mr. S —  should have furnished occasion (I cannot doubt that he regrets it now himself), in a moment of excitement, to such a comment on his language; I regret that one, whom I must suppose to be a brother, should have profited by it. I should have thought its character, which is noticed by the writer in the journal, would have been sufficient to lead a mind, which itself was morally above it, not to use it as a weapon of attack, but see sufficient excitement in it to have regretted it himself for its author's sake, and to have left it in the silence which probably he, in cooler moments, would desire. But I must leave my anonymous author to judge of this for himself. It was a good occasion to attack the "Brethren," and he was disposed to profit by it. He has sought out other allies too. I would only add a word of warning as to all this part of the article: that if a person will grabble in the mud to cast dirt at his neighbours, he is sure to dirty his own hands, whatever he does with others. Perhaps those whom he is flinging it at may go peacefully on their way, guarded by an unseen hand from his efforts. With these few words, I can only leave the author in the position and with the allies he has chosen for himself, and turn to what is really important — the doctrines impeached. I may be perhaps allowed to say, as personally interested in them, I am thankful to the "Brethren" for their patience and grace in the trying circumstances alluded to, and to the Lord for them that He enabled them to be so; admitting, as I suppose all would, imperfection and shortcoming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Mackintosh's accuser shelters himself under the Thirty-nine Articles and the Westminster Confession. But these may be signed and appealed to, and all manner of intolerable doctrines held. Those whom the Free Church of Scotland left signed the Westminster Confession. Justification by works is preached under shelter of the Thirty-nine Articles; Puseyite altars are erected, and baptismal regeneration taught, by those who have signed them — is taught in the Westminster Confession itself. The denial of inspiration is largely spread under the safeguard of the Thirty-nine Articles; and in the Free Church the doctrine is securely promulgated, that Christ was viewed as such a leper that God did not allow Him to visit any holy place nor sleep in Jerusalem. They are a poor protection for the faith of God's elect. More error than truth is taught by those who have signed them, and error ruinous to souls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The writer in the "Journal of Prophecy," who is not under French law, would give more security for sound doctrine by teaching it than by referring to the Anglican and Scottish Confessions, which are elastic enough to admit many novel doctrines and all manner of evil ones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I have a more serious charge than the vain shelter by which he seeks to secure confidence in his orthodoxy, and that is, that his accusations are unfounded, and that, in one point at least, he knows them to be unfounded. I will take the second point first, as it will lead into the main object of these lines — the doctrine of the sacrifices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Of late," says our author, "they have become very zealous for the old Valentinian heresy of the 'heavenly humanity of Christ.' . . . They deny that Christ's body was of the substance of the Virgin. The author of that very unsound and objectionable book, 'Notes on Leviticus,' maintains this." Now, my brother, you must have known that this was not true. I make allowance for excitement and prejudice, but your accusation is a serious one. I shall quote from Mr. Mackintosh's book, which I had not before read, and every one will judge. We are all liable to mistakes, and it is well to correct them; but your charge is a definite one — that Mr. Mackintosh maintains this: i.e., the denial that Christ's body was of the substance of the Virgin. The reader shall judge whether this accusation is well-founded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Mackintosh says, "It was a real human body — real flesh and blood." There is no possible foundation here on which Gnosticism (that is, the old Valentinian heresy of which the journal speaks) or mysticism can base its vapid and worthless theories. Again, "None but a real man could accomplish this [the first promise of the woman's seed], one whose nature was as real as it was pure and incorruptible. 'Thou shalt conceive in thy womb,' said the angelic messenger, 'and bring forth a son."' To this passage the following note is appended: "But when the fulness of time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law." (He gives the Greek words, γενομένον, &amp;c.) "This is a most important passage, inasmuch as it sets forth our Lord as Son of God and Son of man: 'God sent forth His Son, made of a woman.' Precious testimony to the 'flesh and blood,' of which the Eternal Son 'took part,' while absolutely real," &amp;c. And so is all the doctrine of this part where he treats of the subject. He speaks of Mary's relation to the blessed One as the mother of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now he does not accept the doctrine of a sin-bearing life shut out from the favour of God; but, because he does not agree as to this with the school of the "Journal of Prophecy," is this a reason for charging him with what he formally condemns, and the contrary of which he diligently teaches? I must leave the reader to compare the extracts I have given with the accusations of the article. I will state from Gieseler and Mosheim what the Valentinian heresy is, and readers will judge how applicable it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"From the great original (according to him, depth, first father, first cause) with whom is the consciousness of himself ([inward] thought, silence) emanate in succession male and female Aeons (mind or firstborn and truth, word and life, man and church, &amp;c. So that thirty Aeons together, divided into the octoad, decad, and dodecad, form the pleroma — fulness). From the passionate striving of the last Aeon, Sophia (wisdom), to unite itself with 'depth' itself, arises an untimely being, Achamoth, which, wandering about outside the Pleroma, communicates the germ of life to matter, and forms the Demiurge (creator) of psychical material (matter having the life of a living soul), who immediately creates the world. In the meantime two new Aeons had arisen, Christ and the Holy Ghost. Then there emanated from all the Aeons Jesus the Saviour, who, as the future associate (σύξυγος) of Achamoth, was to lead her and the spiritual nature into the Pleroma. The Saviour united Himself at His baptism with the psychical Messiah (having a living soul) promised by Demiurge." For the Old Testament came from the creator of the world, not from God. Hence Hyle, or matter, being from the bad god, or itself eternal and bad and put in order by him, they held it to be bad. Some or all of them held that when Christ was crucified the Aeon flew away, and indeed the Aeon only to have taken an apparent, or rather an ethereal, body, and hence never to have really suffered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The misery Achamoth was in, outside the Pleroma, led her to look for Jesus, the Aeon produced by the Aeons to help her, which was granted, and creation went on between her, Demiurge, and Jesus, spiritual, animal life, and matter being separated; only Achamoth put a little spiritual, unknown to Demiurge, into man. This last must go back to God; matter could not (there was no resurrection); and the living soul might or might not. Demiurge was the God of the Jews, and author of the Old Testament. Men becoming corrupt, Christ came to save them. He took human nature, spiritual, animal, and corporeal; but this last (that He might not be leavened, so to speak, with matter) was ethereal, heavenly in its nature, and only passed through the Virgin Mary. At John's baptism, Jesus descended on him as a dove. When he was going to be crucified, the Aeon Jesus and his spiritual soul left, and only his animal soul and ethereal body were crucified."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I do not know whether the reader will be edified with this short account of the old Valentinian heresy; but at any rate he will be able to judge whether Mr. Mackintosh maintains it. Our journal selects the part merely as to the ethereal body to prove him guilty: whether he is, any one has only to read Mr. Mackintosh's remarks on the second chapter of Leviticus, and he can easily judge. The one expression, "The conception of Christ's humanity by the Holy Ghost in the womb of the Virgin Mary," would suffice to shew the character of the accusation. Indeed the full declaration of the deity of Christ found in Mr. Mackintosh's statements equally sets aside the Valentinian notions, as to the precise nature of which there is some confusion, but the folly of which, to our sober western minds, is almost incomprehensible. In the Valentinian theory Jesus came down only at John's baptism. Now, I ask, how can I think that the writer believes his own accusation? But this is a serious thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I turn to the sacrifices. Here, again, I must complain of the accusations not being founded on fact. I can understand another not agreeing with Mr. Mackintosh in his explanations of a type, or his views as to Christ's not being a sin-bearer during His ministerial or previous life. But the article charges Mr. M. with declaring the burnt offering not to be propitiatory. He does not use the word propitiatory; it is not used in the chapter. But he does several times declare it to be atonement, and speaks of it as a special and a blessed character of atonement. The difference he refers to is, that atonement in the sin offering is measured by man's sins; in the burnt offering, according to the infinite value to God of Christ's voluntary offering Himself without spot to God. "Atonement, as seen in the burnt offering, is not merely commensurate with the claims of man's conscience, but with the intense desire of the heart of Christ to carry out the will and to establish the counsels of God. It is atonement, not according to the depth and enormity of human guilt, but according to the perfection of Christ's surrender of Himself to God, and the intensity of God's delight in Christ. This gives us the very loftiest idea of atonement." "The burnt offering aspect of atonement is that about which the priestly household may well be occupied in the courts of the Lord's house for ever." Now, Mr. M. does not enter upon the question here at all why this atonement was by death. He is entirely occupied with the different character of the atonement itself, as exhibited in the burnt and in the sin offering, and that the view of the atonement in the burnt offering was (not its sin-bearing character as "made sin," as it was in the sin offering, but) Christ's voluntary offering Himself up to death in order to glorify God. As Mr. Darby's name is set at the head of the article, I may add that, in the "Types of Leviticus," it is said that Christ, as the burnt offering, fully underwent the judgment of God; and that, besides other things, the cry, "My God! my God! why hast thou forsaken me?" — a cry which remained without answer till the expiation was accomplished — shews to us the Son of God fully put to the test by judgment. And this is enlarged upon, shewing that it only rose in a sweet savour. I quote the following words, "All the manifestations of righteousness in Him were of no avail (i.e., to win man) in themselves. Thus it was needful that He should become a sacrifice; it was necessary that His blood should be shed that we might draw near to God. Now, it is under this character that the burnt offering represents Him to us." Now this part of the subject Mr. Mackintosh does not dwell on, but he does call the burnt offering an atonement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two points arise here. Is the charge of Socinianism just? And is the view of the article in the "Quarterly Journal" just as to the sacrifices? As to the charge of Socinianism it is simply ridiculous. The author admits that propitiation is taught as to the sin offering. All he can bring himself, however, to say is, "Admitting the sin offering to be propitiatory, which they could hardly deny." But do not the Socinians quite deny it? Is it not their characteristic view? That, and the denial of Christ's deity, both of which Mr. Mackintosh largely and zealously puts forth. I should have to cite all his pages on the sin offering, did I quote passages to prove that he views Christ as the sin-bearer, made sin, so making propitiation. Now the journalist must know that Mr. Mackintosh's views are the direct and absolute opposite of Socinian views. I say he must know it; I will examine his own views on the subject in a moment: but he must know this. The point Mr. Mackintosh is insisting on is thus summed up: "He (the Lord) says on one occasion, The cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?" And again, "Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me." The first of these passages he refers to as expressing the spirit of the burnt offering; the latter, of the contemplation of His place as the sin offering. The statements, then, of the article are untrue. The motive of them is evident in it too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The vicariousness of Christ's life," it says, "is denied: Christ was not our substitute till He came to die." Hinc illae lachrymae. But is it an honourable thing to charge deadly doctrine on a person falsely, because he does not agree with the accuser on another point? The author has heard that some of them speak of imputed righteousness as imputed nonsense. Where did he hear it? If I do not mistake, it was Wesley's saying, though I cannot affirm it. Was he a Socinian? The writer should be calmer; by all this violence he betrays what it is that animates him. He plunges himself too into very unguarded assertions in his haste. He says, "If Christ was not the sin-bearer during His life, the Socinian explanation of His sorrows is the right one." Of what sorrows? His sorrows on the cross? This is foolish language. I do not know what particular views the Socinians have of Christ's sorrows during His life, but every one knows their main principles are the denial of the deity of Christ and of the atonement. Now saying, if Christ was not a sin-bearer during His life, their explanation of His sorrows is the true one, casts the whole truth of the gospel on the particular views of the journalist on the point of Christ bearing sin all His life, and living all His life under wrath; that is, that the Socinian's views as to Christ's sufferings on the cross and all are right, if the writer's views as to Christ's vicarious life are not right: for the writer makes no distinction in sufferings during the life of Christ and sufferings on the cross, none between what He suffered from man, when He had hatred for His love, and what He suffered from the wrath of God. He throws all together; and if this confusion be not right, he says the Socinians are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I do not at all charge him with any approach to their views, but I do with rashness, and great carelessness or ignorance in speaking of the sufferings of Christ. For he makes His sufferings and sorrows all one in character (those on the cross and all the rest being undistinguished) and says that the Socinian view of them is right, if his particular thoughts are not. It is to be remembered that, although it went on to death, Christ was alive when bearing our sins on the tree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now as to the doctrine of the sacrifices itself. Bishop Patrick is first referred to, to destroy the edge and break the handle of the Socinian axe of C. H. M. and Darbyism. But I am often at a loss to know whether it be the haste of violence and vexation, or real want of honesty, that animates the pen and argument (I am sure, not the heart) of our Scottish adversaries; but I really believe the former. But it is sadly rash and careless, and ought not to be allowed in grave accusations. "Bishop Patrick," we are told, "in his Commentary on Leviticus, remarks, that the burnt offering, the holocaust, was the most ancient sacrifice in the world." I have turned to Bishop Patrick. He does so. That is the beginning of his note; here is the end: "I shall add no more, but that these whole burnt offerings seem to have been simple acknowledgments of God, the Creator of the world, and testifications that they own Him to be their Lord, and continued in covenant with Him, and implored His blessing upon them. And therefore, with respect to the first and last of these considerations (the first was, no man eating of them), the Gentiles were permitted to bring these sacrifices (as the Jews tell us), but no others whatsoever to be offered to God." This is in the same note as what our journalist quotes — a note whose real object is to shew that they were not propitiatory. If C. H. M. had written this! But perhaps Noah's sacrifice, and Abel's, will help us out. They are tacked on to Bishop Patrick by the article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hear him on Noah's: "Some think these burnt offerings had something in them of the nature of a propitiatory sacrifice, as well as eucharistical, which they certainly were, for their deliverance from the flood. Their reason is taken from what follows, 'The Lord smelled a sweet savour' (ver. 21); that is, as Munster understands it, He ceased from His anger, and was appeased. So the Syriac and Josephus. But it may signify no more, but that his thankfulness was as grateful to God as sweet odours are to us." As to Abel: "What kind of sacrifices these were is a question among learned men. The Talmudists are of opinion they were whole burnt offerings. Abel brought of the fat thereof, that is, of the very best." Cain ate the firstfruits himself, as some allege. He says, "But there is no certainty of this; and the apostle to the Hebrews hath directed us to a better account — Abel offered with a pious mind." And before, "It was a very seasonable time to make their grateful acknowledgments to God who had given them a plentiful year." But worse yet, "He graciously accepted them (Abel's offerings, offered with a pious mind), and his offering was accepted, because he himself was accepted. It is a metaphor from those who, when a present is made to them, look kindly upon the person who brings it, if they like him and his present." What do you think, my reader, of citing Bishop Patrick to prove that burnt offerings are propitiatory? And what do you think of the journal which cites him for it? "Cain offered of the fruit of the ground, but did not devote himself to God." Now I do not agree with Bishop Patrick, though I do not charge him with Socinianism; but he lays the Socinian axe to the parent root and stem in a terrible way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now there was, the Jews state, no other sacrifice before the law. I somewhat doubt of this among the heathen, but they are right according to scripture history. Sin-bearing was not brought out distinctly as it was under the law. Yet sin was in the world, and death by sin. And death, as needed atonement, was kept in sight in the divine way of a sinner's approach to God. Under the law this was brought far more clearly out. Sin-bearing was distinctly expressed, and, as the sacrifices were types of Christ, other deeply interesting parts of His sacrificial work, which had to be distinguished from this, were presented in them. The journalist's effort is to confound all these together, so that we should lose the profoundly interesting instruction conveyed in them. Mr. Mackintosh, to bring out the contrast, and while stating it expressly to be atonement (which Bishop Patrick demurs to), does not enter into the question of how it was so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now in the burnt offering the thought is distinctly kept up that death had come in, and that atonement and a victim were needed for our approach to God. But while this is carefully maintained, and sin, being there, Christ could not have offered Himself for us and as making atonement for sin without bloodshedding ("for without shedding of blood there is no remission"); yet the specific purport of the burnt offering is that which the article seeks, as far as possible, to destroy. Christ is presented in the burnt offering as offering Himself to God for us. This must go on to death most surely for atonement; but it had not the specific character of the sin offering, but another. Job, when there were no other than burnt offerings (unless feasts are offerings, peace offerings, for such I think they were, see Exodus 18: 12), offered them in case his sons should have sinned. The whole idea of an offering, even to death and expiation by it, was embraced in the one kind. In the law, God, while maintaining the grand principle of death and atonement, separated the distinctive parts, that is, the voluntary offering (because Christ was to offer Himself wholly, even unto death), and the actual bearing of sins and drinking the cup of wrath, though both were in one act, death being there for both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article states, "It (the burnt offering) is spoken of in almost precisely the same language as the sin offering." Now this is a very great mistake indeed. The blood, the fire, and the altar are used for both, as alleged, though even this statement is very inaccurate. The one general previous sacrifice, the Holocaust, was, under the law, separated into two. One preserved the name of Hola; but the specific character of Chata (to which we may add Ascham, a trespass offering), a sin offering, was set apart as distinct under the law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was called for when such a one as the Son of God was to be brought near the eye, so to speak, as a sacrifice; and this difference the writer obliterates, and C. H. M. insists on. The differences are these:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The name of the sin offering in Hebrew is the same as sin itself. So Christ, who knew no sin, was made sin. The offerer was to bring his sin. The sin offering was appointed to be offered only when a man had sinned. He was to offer, and was bound to do it, for that sin. He could not rightly offer the burnt offering till this was done. The burnt offering was not offered when a man had sinned, but of his own voluntary will. The sin was forgiven (the word is omitted as to the high priest) when the sin offering was offered. This is never said as to the burnt offering. When the blood of the sin offering was brought into the holy place, the body was not burnt on the altar at all (hence I said the writer was very inexact) — and this was a capital fact referred to by the Epistle to the Hebrews — but burnt outside the camp. It was not called a sweet savour (though the fat was, in the individual ones, to intimate the connection of the two in the one perfect person of Christ). In the burnt offering the sacrifice was wholly burnt on the altar and was always a sweet savour. And this was so distinct that the word burn is not the same. As to the sin offering, "burn" is the common word; as to the burnt offering, the same as burning incense. In the individual sin offering the priests ate a part; in the burnt offering all was consumed on the altar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now all this marks out a very different aspect of the work. Sin offering, called sin, supposes a person incapable of worshipping. He must bear sin (or another for him) and be forgiven. The burnt offering does not suppose an actual state of sin before God, which forbids approach, though it shews that no man could approach without blood; and that if Christ gave Himself up for us, it must be to death. When the case called for it, he first offered a sin offering, and, being forgiven, could offer his burnt offering. It was the voluntary act of the worshipper, not the present necessity of sin. Thus it represents Christ who gave Himself up obedient unto death; and then, in a subordinate sense, our coming through Him, worshipping, and devoting ourselves to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The law does carefully distinguish between the two aspects of sacrifice, which were, in the previous days of undeveloped truth, left confounded. These the writer confounds. No approach but by Christ's death, by atonement; but transgressions are singled out by the law and imputed somewhere, and this is distinguished from a voluntary offering. I see only ignorance in the objections of the article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imputed righteousness has been treated of elsewhere. I only add here, that the writer's mistake here arises from his not understanding what imputed righteousness means. It does not mean a quantum of formal righteousness outside us, imputed to us, but our being accounted righteous. Righteousness being imputed to a man simply means the man being accounted righteous. As the writer refers to the Thirty-nine Articles, he may see it so expressed there. Hence the argument of the article about imputing a divine attribute goes for nothing — has no sense in it; it is, like the rest, simply ignorance. God, according to that divine attribute, accounts us righteous, because of the work of Christ. There is nothing "lurks" at all, except in the mind or pen of the writer of the article. I simply, very openly, deny his doctrine of the justifying vicariousness of Christ's life as under the law. But the writer says we evade the passages which speak of His righteousness. We do not evade them; we ask for them. It does not at all follow because Christ is God that, if God's righteousness is spoken of, it means Christ's as a man under the law. What we say is, that Christ's righteousness as a man under law is not spoken of at all. The righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ, in 2 Peter, is not spoken of as to justification at all, and has nothing to do with the subject. The promises have been fulfilled in sending Christianity (Christ the object of faith, though not personally present) to the dispersed remnant by a righteous God. (Chap. 1: 1.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fine, the sacrifices do incontestably point out the difference of Christ's voluntarily devoting Himself to death to glorify God Himself in the work of atonement when sin was come in, and His specifically charging Himself with the sins of His guilty people to bear and put them away. If the writer cannot understand the difference, he loses a large part of the blessed truths specially exposed in St. John's Gospel, and suffers very great loss to his own soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know not that any further answer is necessary, unless I may recommend my reader to Mr. Mackintosh's "Notes on Leviticus" if he wishes to learn whether the accusations of the article in the "Quarterly Journal of Prophecy" have one particle of truth in them. I cannot but think, if the writer of the article be a Christian, as I suppose, that the time may come when he will regret having been the author of such a one; I confess I should much prefer being the object to being the author of it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-8031147340376067913?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/8031147340376067913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=8031147340376067913' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/8031147340376067913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/8031147340376067913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/06/notes-on-leviticus-and-quarterly.html' title='&lt;em&gt;The &quot;Notes on Leviticus&quot; and the &quot;Quarterly Journal of Prophecy,&quot;&lt;/em&gt; by J. N. Darby'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-400026549432335694</id><published>2008-06-02T12:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-02T12:51:43.892-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the unreliability of the Early Church Fathers</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I have not cited the Fathers, nor gone into their doctrines. While I do not doubt that the truly pious among them were guarded in the faith; yet, as doctors, nothing can be more uncertain; as moralists, scarce anything more objectionable. God has preserved truth in and for His church, blessed be His name! but the Fathers are the expression, not of orthodox truth, but of a mass of mentalefforts on divine subjects, of heavings to and for on subjects which escaped their grasp; of the efforts, too, of minds, for the most part seriously corrupted by Platonic philosophy, and shrinking from the attacks of Pagans on the point of the unity of the Godhead, which they feared to compromise by the doctrine of eternal Sonship and divinity of Christ. Save Jerome and Origen, they did not understand Hebrew, and could only use the Septuagint version; valuable no doubt as to testimony, but most imperfect as representing the meaning of scripture, and sometimes any meaning at all.  &lt;br /&gt;JN Darby, &lt;em&gt;Remarks on Puseyism&lt;/em&gt;, in Collected Writings, vol.29&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-400026549432335694?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/400026549432335694/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=400026549432335694' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/400026549432335694'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/400026549432335694'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/06/jn-darby-on-unreliability-of-early.html' title='J.N. Darby on the unreliability of the Early Church Fathers'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-6555737359142067507</id><published>2008-06-02T12:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:49:17.481-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby as an High Churchman</title><content type='html'>Darby gave us a wonderful delightful description of his previous High Anglican views:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me be forgiven for a moment for speaking of myself, as what I say has a bearing on these points. I know the system. I knew it and walked in it years before Dr Newman (as I learn from this book) thought on this subject; and when Dr Pusey was not heard of. I fasted in Lent so as to be so weak in the body at the end of it; I ate no meat on week days- nothing till evening on Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays, then a little bread or nothing; observed strictly the weekly fasts, too. I went to my clergyman always if I wished to take the sacrament, that he might judge of the matter. I held the apostolic succession fully, and the channels of grace to be there only. I held thus Luther and his followers to be outside. I was not their judge, but I left them to the uncovenanted mercies of God. I searched with earnest diligence the evidence for apostolic succession in England, and just saved their validity for myself and my conscience. The union of Church and state I held to be Babylonish, that the church ought to govern itself, and that she was in bondage but was the church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N.Darby Analysis of Dr Newman’s Apologia Pro Vita Sua in Collected Writings, vol.1, p.156&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you belong to a church with no bishops, aren't you glad that the uncovenanted mercies of God might just save you from hell?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby moved away from this theology after his riding accident in 1827, when he came to discover assurance of salvation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-6555737359142067507?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/6555737359142067507/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=6555737359142067507' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/6555737359142067507'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/6555737359142067507'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/06/jn-darby-as-high-churchman.html' title='J.N. Darby as an High Churchman'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-4043405731660632672</id><published>2008-05-30T06:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T06:42:55.297-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I hope you like the artwork</title><content type='html'>I wanted to make the blog a little more interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I doubt Darby would have approved of the picture, 'Ramparts of God's House' Studwick, but I think the image fits his theology.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-4043405731660632672?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/4043405731660632672/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=4043405731660632672' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/4043405731660632672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/4043405731660632672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-hope-you-like-artwork.html' title='I hope you like the artwork'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-1586224678417406103</id><published>2007-10-27T06:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:41:30.950-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><title type='text'>Commenting and Commentaries by C.H. Spurgeon</title><content type='html'>I am not part of the gang that worships and adores Spurgeon. However, I recently read 'Commenting and Commentaries.' I have to say that I enjoyed this book more than any other that I have read by Spurgeon.&lt;br /&gt;Then again, I fail to see how any Christian bibliophile could not enjoy a book about books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this work Spurgeon gives brief evaluations on commentaries on the whole Bible and specific parts of it. These commentaries are of varying shades of opinion and it is fascinating to get Spurgeon's take on the great expository works of the ages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sad part of the book is reading Spurgeon's harsh comments about J.N. Darby and 'Darbyism.' Spurgeon recommends some of CH Mackintosh's commentaries on the Pentateuch, and a few other Brethren works, but expresses his contempt for 'Darbyism.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spurgeon inluded in his catalogue two works by Darby, 'Practical Reflections on the Psalms' and Studies in the Book of Daniel'. Sadly, he did not include Darby's greatest and most readable (just about) work, the 'Synopsis of the Books of the Bible'. Spurgeon made one memorable comment on Darby:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If the author would write in plain English, his readers would probably discover that there is nothing very valuable in his remarks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is true that Darby's prose was absolutely appalling, but it is unfortunate that Spurgeon was unwilling to look beyond his opaque style.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Significantly, it must be said that there is none of the dogamtic amillennialism (or rather anti-millennialism) in this book that one finds in many Reformed circles today. Spurgeon gave very positive recommendations to such Premillennial works as Tregelles 'Daniel the Prophet' and B.W. Newton's 'Thoughts on the Apocalypse'.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-1586224678417406103?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/1586224678417406103/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=1586224678417406103' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1586224678417406103'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/1586224678417406103'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2007/10/commenting-and-commentaries-by-ch.html' title='&lt;em&gt;Commenting and Commentaries&lt;/em&gt; by C.H. Spurgeon'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116798863670395928</id><published>2007-01-05T01:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-01-05T01:17:16.726-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Goodbye</title><content type='html'>On Tuesday, I am going to Japan for a two-month mission trip.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116798863670395928?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116798863670395928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116798863670395928' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116798863670395928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116798863670395928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2007/01/goodbye.html' title='Goodbye'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116714840883437263</id><published>2006-12-26T07:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-12-26T07:53:28.850-08:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Christ the Heir</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is on this gathering together of all things unto Christ and in Christ, as their Head (Greek, &lt;em&gt;anakephalaiosis&lt;/em&gt;- heading up), that depends the character and the substance of the hope of the church, until God be all in all. In this point of view, Scripture speaks of Christ manifested, as being Heir of all these things, and of the church as being joint-heir with Him. Thus it is written, that God has appointed Christ "heir of all things" (Heb. 1:2); that in Him, "we have obtained an inheritance" (Eph 1:11); that "we are heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ," Rom. 8:17. This glorious title of Christ- the Heir- has a still more glorious origin. He is "the firstborn of every creature, for by him were all things created that are in heaven, and that are in earth... and for him," Col. 1:15, 16. The church, the children of God, are therefore joint-heirs with Christ. How are they such? It is this which we are about to develop. Christ receives the inheritance in His character of man, of risen Man, once our companion in sufferings because of sin, and then the Head, the root and the spring of blessing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must first remark that the first Adam, "the figure of Him that was to come," is a type and figure of the Second Adam of whom we are now speaking. He is referrd to in this respect in Ephesians 5:30, 31. Before His manifestation, the last Adam is, as it were, hidden, as the first Adam was buried in sleep (&lt;em&gt;Darby later questioned this analogy- D.F&lt;/em&gt;); Eve, who prefigures the church, is taken from his side, and God presents her to him as the help meet for him, to be his companion in the government and the inheritance of all things given to him of God in paradise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus Christ, who is God as well as man, presents the church to Himself, when He awakes in His glory, that it may share that glory with Him and that dominion which He already poseses in title and by the gift of God, "And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them," John 17:22.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adam and Eve, taken collectively, are called Adam, as if they were but one (Gen. 1:27, 5:2), although in a strict sense, Eve was inferior to her husband, and had come after him. So it is with Christ and the church, who are but one mystical body. This type, familiar to those who read the Scriptures, presents, in a most simple way, all the forms of the reality prefigured, with this expression, that the Second Man, being 'out of heaven' (1 Cor. 15:47), is also Head and Lord of the heavenly things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;The Purpose of God &lt;/em&gt;in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby&lt;/em&gt;, vol.1, p.268-269&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116714840883437263?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116714840883437263/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116714840883437263' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116714840883437263'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116714840883437263'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/12/jn-darby-on-christ-heir.html' title='J.N. Darby on Christ the Heir'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116697955928098156</id><published>2006-12-24T08:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-12-24T08:59:19.290-08:00</updated><title type='text'>At a risk of being boiled with my own pudding and having a sprig of Holly skewered through my heart, I am going to say:</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;Merry Christmas&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or &lt;em&gt;Merry Saturnalia&lt;/em&gt; to all you Jehovah's Witnesses and any like-minded extreme KJV-Fundamentalists who want to enjoy having a family holiday but do not want to get tangled in any pagan stuff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way, a lot of people get slippers as a Christmas present. It is one of those things that makes a great present (provided you know the recipient's shoe-size). If you do, please take it as a sign that you really ought to make your home a shoe-free zone. It will certainly make for a more relaxed atmosphere during the holiday season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have a clean and godly Christmas this year.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116697955928098156?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116697955928098156/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116697955928098156' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116697955928098156'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116697955928098156'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/12/at-risk-of-being-boiled-with-my-own.html' title='At a risk of being boiled with my own pudding and having a sprig of Holly skewered through my heart, I am going to say:'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116492698769391804</id><published>2006-11-30T14:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-30T14:49:47.796-08:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Psalm 22:22</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Psalm 22:22&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note, if we remark what the force of this verse is, we shall see what the character of our praise, in worship especially ought to be; for what, sice Christ leads it, must His sense be of the nature and completeness of this deliverance before God, and His new position?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note, Christ does not declare God's name as known to the great congregation, nor call them brethren- it is the same God He praises, no doubt- nor does He say "in the midst of the congregation." In truth, His praise of Him "in the great congregation" etc. sets His rather alone, though as publishing His name, leading them to praise Him. So also He pays His vows "before those that fear" God. It is evidently more Jewish for the deliverances than the revelation of the Name, founded on verse 24, which refers to the act but not to the Name which He revealed when delivered. See Psalm 145, and then John 17, where Psalm 22 is fully brought out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Verse 22 gives thus in Jewish sort "Thy name," but as Christians we have more. This was on resurrection, "My God and your God." But then He had more for His disciples which He had been afresh, or as a new thing, revealing to them all His life- the Father; now this was fully declared in John 17. Not only did He own Jehovah as His God and walk accordingly, but being One, the Father was seen in Him. This is quite a new thing by virtue of the divine union of the Persons, and yet He is not ashamed to call them brethren. Therefore He says too: "My Father and your Father." This was not merely Jewish, see John 4, where this begins to be openned out. Therefore this time is not mentioned in the Epistle to the Hebrews, nor introduced in force- but God, being of all the children, as such, by faith. But then this address to them in the name of brethren introduces them into the place of children as in John 1, "to them gave He authority to become the sons of God," because He was to praise for redemption in the midst of the congregation. The difference of the relationship to the Jews of Christ in the flesh, being concealed and smothered, is the root error of Irvingism. It is the devil's abuse of His relationship in the flesh to them, as of His mother linked with them on earth, though holy. This rejected One "Who is my mother?" is of His Father (heavenly), and so the children, and not knowing the earth save as subject, and therefore knowing Christ after the flesh, knowing Him no more, and therefore &lt;em&gt;kaine ktisis&lt;/em&gt; (a new creation). All their good and special knowledge is just what Christ has set aside, and they even held that unholily and it is evil; just as in Galatians, the Jewish ceremonies to a Gentile, united to Christ in resurrection, was the same thing as going back again to His own idols- &lt;em&gt;quod nota&lt;/em&gt;- have their natural headships, not God's family and the like. Verse 22 however, being in resurrection necessarilly involves sonship, for He therein was declared Son of God with power, and it is only after the resurrection He says "Go tell my brethren" but thence it is addressed to be the means of calling &lt;em&gt;Kol- Israel &lt;/em&gt;(the whole of Israel) that they that feared should praise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NOTES AND COMMENTS, p.86-87&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116492698769391804?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116492698769391804/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116492698769391804' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116492698769391804'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116492698769391804'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/11/jn-darby-on-psalm-2222.html' title='J.N. Darby on Psalm 22:22'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116462298941543498</id><published>2006-11-27T02:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-27T02:23:09.426-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Patristic Page</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://patristicpage.blogspot.com/"&gt;The Patristic Page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why not join me in reading the Early Church Fathers? Darby thought they were 'a bin of trash.' Decide for yourself!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116462298941543498?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://patristicpage.blogspot.com/' title='The Patristic Page'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116462298941543498/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116462298941543498' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116462298941543498'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116462298941543498'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/11/patristic-page.html' title='The Patristic Page'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116376171599086443</id><published>2006-11-17T03:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-17T03:08:36.023-08:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Melchisedek Priesthood of Christ</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;by J.N. Darby&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The blessing of Abram, by Melchisedec, runs thus - "Blessed be Abram of the Most High God, possessor of heaven and earth, and blessed be the Most High God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thine hand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is familiar to every reader, that the apostle uses Melchisedec as the type of Christ, according to the word of the oath: "Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We would say a few words on this Melchisedec priesthood of Christ, its extent and blessing. And first, it is not that which Christ the Lord now exercises. Not that He is not a priest after that order - we know fully that He is, by the epistle to the Hebrews, and from Psalm 110, and that He is not of any other. But the exercise of His priesthood is according to the typical character of Aaron's on the day of atonement, as the same epistle shews. The whole of the present order of things answers to the day of atonement - is typified by it. The High Priest is gone within the veil, with the blood of the sacrifice - even of Himself - His own blood. So there, as yet, He is, whom the heavens must receive till the time of the restoration of all things, which God hath promised by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. This, then, is the time during which the Lord, though a priest after the order of Melchisedec, after the power of an endless life, made with an oath for ever (eis to dienekes*), in perpetuity, a continuous, not a successional priesthood; yet exercises it practically for us according to the type, though not according to the order of Aaron, as within the veil, on the great day of atonement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Accordingly the apostle, after declaring the order of His priesthood, enters upon and dwells exclusively in detail upon the Aaronic priesthood, as characteristic of that which the Lord Christ now exercises. He shews that He exercises it, anti-typically, within the veil, the priesthood being, in its exercise, now one entirely of a heavenly character. He is gone within, not the typical veil, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. The blood is not of bulls and goats, with which the patterns of things in the heavens were purified, but His own blood - those better sacrifices by which the heavenly things themselves could be purified. The very glory with which Jesus is said to be crowned is spoken of in the words in which the consecration garments of Aaron, and his sons after him, are described in Exodus. (Compare Heb. 2: 7 and Ex. 28: 2, in LXX, where the words are literally "for honour and glory.") The whole of chapters 8 and 9 shew the present exercise of the Lord Christ's priesthood to be after the Aaronical pattern, though He be in no sort after the Aaronical order. It is the very reasoning and subject of the epistle; and in chapter 9 the analogy is entered into in detail, so as to enable us to apply the details of the priestly services of the Levitical order to our present condition; as, however imperfectly, is commonly known in the Christian church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is manifest, then, that the type of Melchisedec here presented to us, as indicative of the priesthood of Christ, in its exercise leads us to further results and wider exhibition than that in which He now so graciously, and blessedly for us, secures the life, and blessing, and salvation of His people in heavenly places; Himself far above all heavens, at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having by Himself purged our sins. The priesthood of Christ is clearly after the order of Melchisedec, and solely so; its exercise now is as clearly after the type of the order of Aaron solely; and that as exhibited on the great day of atonement within the veil. Not but that there is a great deal revealed now as to Aaronic types, which could not be seen in the type itself, which was a shadow, not the very image, the veil is now rent behind Him, and we are enabled to follow Him within, and see where He is set down, to our comfort and everlasting joy. But there is a glory besides, not yet fulfilled; a glory of its own character, a glory properly Christ's, and taught us in this type of Melchisedec, the exercise of which we find yet to come; and all that develops Christ's glory is precious to the saints. It is the Lord's glory, the glory of the Son of the Father, His own glory, too, as well as the Lord's glory. On this I would speak a little.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The priesthood of Melchisedec is, then, that royal dominion of priesthood in which, as representing the Most High God, and speaking also for man to Him in returns of praise, Christ blesses from Him (as now in His possession) heaven and the uttermost parts of the earth, through and in the seed of God. We find even in the case of Nebuchadnezzar (the first great type of earthly and Gentile dominion but opening out its corruption), his greatness reached unto heaven, and his dominion to the end of the earth; and this is put in such a strong light, that, as far as earth goes, the Adamic dominion is (Daniel 2: 38) in a remarkable manner attributed to him. He may have been guilty, and the first exhibition of Gentile apostate dominion; still this characteristic of universal dominion is attached to him. He was the man (in whatever pride of character he filled it) set in power. The mystery of his non-acknowledgment of God in it was to be brought out in him; and the seven times of a beast's heart in this selfish and proud dominion. It was the man of the earth, not the Lord from heaven acting as man in the power of righteousness; the king of Babylon, not the Son of David, not the Lord from heaven ruling in Jerusalem as witnessing the true God. But it was a dominion given, and typically exhibiting this dominion over the earth, though to illustrate its abuse in man's hand (hence the seed of God, even brought into captivity, not blessed as in power or deliverers); a dominion given in connection with that age (aion), in which administrative power was put into the hand of man, in the commission to kill whoever killed, which was given to Noah. The other characteristic of the evil and apostasy of it was the setting up a false god - an image. But the result was that God was owned by the king "the Most High God": God is acknowledged in this character. The seven times' punishment comes, till he knows that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will. Thus much for all short of dominion in heaven (though his greatness reaches to that), all earthly dominion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is another portion of the divine inheritance corrupted and debased, the scene of power, however, and blessing. His greatness reached to the heavens; but what do the revelations of God shew us to be in the heavenlies?" The saints of the Most High (that is, of the heavenlies - Heb. elionin)* shall take the kingdom." But we find that we are wrestling with principalities and powers, with spiritual wickedness in the heavenlies (Eph. 6: 12); that is, power apostate from God, holding the earth; exceeding great power, and spiritual wickedness, principalities and powers, holding the heavenlies: the earth, and the heavenlies alike, possessed by evil in present power. We find the saints of the heavenlies (Daniel 7: 18) taking the kingdom, and the people of the saints of the high places or heavenlies given the kingdom, and dominion, and greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven (v. 27). In this it is that God has His title, as may be seen in Daniel, of Most High (the second word Most High in verse 25 being different in the original from the first given above), that Most High whom Nebuchadnezzar was obliged and made willing to acknowledge. Thus the earthlies and heavenlies will, as regards government in association with God, be set in blessing under the name of the Most High.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we have more definite statements on the subject. In the day of the full glory of the Lamb, there shall be one Lord, and His name One; the God of the whole earth shall He be called. In that day shall Jerusalem be called the throne of the Lord, and all the nations shall be gathered to it. And the Son of man appearing in His glory, King of the Jews, even Jesus of Nazareth, shall be on the throne, and not on the cross; and not in Hebrew, nor in Greek and Latin only; but in every language of power which despised Him, shall men join in owning the inscription of the Lord of glory, even Jesus of Nazareth, "This is the King of the Jews," when the earthly kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ is come. This is not, indeed, the limit of His glory, though it be much to have destroyed them that destroyed the earth, and fill it with blessing, the mountain of the Lord's house being established in the top of the mountains, with especial blessing to the seed of God, under His righteous reign. All power is given to Him in heaven; and thus we find the blessing identified with the Person and heavenly presence of Jesus. Accordingly we find in the promise, the purpose of His will in the Ephesians, that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, "He should gather together in one all things in Christ; both which are in heaven and which are upon the earth." Now the mystery which belongs to us is not merely that we should have the sure mercies of David by virtue of His resurrection. This will be made sure to the Jews (Acts 13: 32-34), in the day when He shall see them, even the believing remnant, and He shall sit upon the throne of David His father, and reign over the house of Jacob for ever, all nations serving Him, and the nation and kingdom which will not serve Jerusalem shall perish, yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted. But Jerusalem shall be called the city of the Lord; the Zion of the Holy One of Israel shall be an eternal excellency; its sun no more go down, but the Gentiles come to the brightness of its rising. This will be the portion of the despised ones, in all whose affliction He has been afflicted, over whose apostasy and rejection of Himself He could but weep. Those tears are not shed in vain, but mark a reaping in joy, when the joy shall be as the joy in harvest and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we have a yet better portion, not blessings, great as they are, secured in His resurrection, but to be raised together with Him, and to sit with Him in heavenly places. "He hath blessed us in heavenly places"; and the very purpose of that epistle to the Ephesians is to shew that, made sons with Him, we are to be with Him in heavenly places, the body of Him, the Head to the Church over all things. We have not merely the fruits, but the working towards ourselves of that exceeding great power, which was wrought in Him, when "God raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places." (See Eph. 1: 19; Eph. 2: 7.) But we look at this only in government now in connection with the throne of Melchisedec.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus when He gathers together in one all things in Christ we find, under the blessing of His throne, the Jews in the earthlies the centre of blessing, and all nations blessed in them through Him (see Acts 3: 25), and the saints in the heavenlies, sitting there as raised with Christ, and having overcome through grace, sitting down in His throne, as He overcame and sat down in His Father's throne; and thus witnesses together of the universal dominion of Him, to whom all power is given in heaven and on earth, at once Son of God and Son of man; Lord over all, as well as God over all, blessed for evermore. But there is another character (for what of blessing does He not fill?) which we find the Lord here shewing forth. He is a Priest upon His throne (Zech. 6); and here we have the real full exercise of the Melchisedec priesthood. And now see how all the things referred to are brought together in it. We speak of Christ as Priest after the order of Melchisedec, in the day of His power on His throne. He had sat on His Father's till His foes were made His footstool, but now - gathering all things in heaven and on earth into one - He sits on His own throne.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That dreadful evil had come in, that Satan, sitting in heavenly places, had made the poor inhabitants of earth worship demons, gods many and lords many. And earthly power was associated with false worship and apostasy, as we see typified in the great image set up by Nebuchadnezzar, in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon. Hence misery, also persecution and degradation of the children of God. The corrupter and murderer being in heavenly places, corruption was the portion of his subjects, death of those who were not so exempt. Now that which was specifically opposed to this was this title of the Most High God; so Nebuchadnezzar is bound down to confess the Most High God. And this name we find in the passage we are considering: "Blessed be Abram of the Most High God." Now this remarkably concurs with what we find connected with the call of Abram: "Your fathers," says Joshua (chap. 24), "served other gods beyond the flood." The call of Abraham, therefore, was not the judgment upon unrighteousness against God alone known and owned, but the call and witness of the Most High God. When the perverseness of man made gods many, and lords many, He was then the Most High God. We have seen, further, the heavenlies and the earthlies are united in one, in Christ; whose is all power in heaven and earth; and here, accordingly, Abraham is blessed of the Most High God, Possessor of heaven and earth; and as the title of the Most High God is given here, and witnessed in the priesthood of Melchisedec, who was priest of the Most High God, so also shall the blessing run in this full and unhindered channel, Possessor of heaven and earth. O what blessing in that day when there shall not be principalities and powers in heavenly places to taint the very source of blessing in powers above: no scene of deceived corruption below to make evil what God had made good; nor spirit of rebellion to bring the curse of opposition to God, the God of blessing, upon the wearied corrupters of their own mercy; but one whose it is, Possessor of heaven and earth, when the Lord shall hear the heavens, and the heavens shall hear the earth standing in the priesthood, and the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and the corn and the oil shall hear Jezreel. O what blessing when the Most High takes (ever His in title) possession of heaven and earth, and our High Priest is His High Priest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus we have total exclusion of all other gods but one, the only One; the world or heaven above knowing none but One; no creature above or on the earth taken to be a god but the Most High God, known as the Possessor of heaven and earth. What rest in that! what rest and security! while Satan has the power, while those hold the possession subject to his power, sorrow, discord, and death are the sad and unwelcome companions of man's voyage; he is seduced to every folly, he is but as the convict in the ship - its guidance and its power are in other hands. Now the Most High is Possessor, and where shall be the tempter then? Not in heaven: the Most High possesses that; not on earth: the Most High reaches in His possession to that; and the very ends of the earth shall feel the blessing of His pervading comprehensive blessedness. But this Melchisedec, though priest of the Most High God, had other characters. He was King of righteousness (comp. Isaiah 32); for where righteousness is, there is blessing. He was king of Salem, which is king of Peace; for the fruit of righteousness is peace; the effect of righteousness, quietness and assurance for ever. The Melchisedec priesthood is the security of the blessings of these from the Most High God; the union of heaven and earth under Him, and the mutual blessing of both known in Him, and the common recognition of the Most High God, possessor of heaven and earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we have also to look at the object of this blessing - Abram. Now, naturally, Abram is the father of the natural seed - "I know that ye are Abraham's seed," saith the Lord to the Jews. Here then he stood the father of Israel (and in them of the blessing of many nations), blessed from the fulness of the Most High God, by the King of Peace and of righteousness; the representative of the natural seed of Israel, blessed from on high, in the earthlies, with all the fulness of blessings from God Most High, possessor, etc. But Abraham stood, however, as we know, also as representative of the seed which inherit the heavenlies - Christ and ourselves. "If ye are Christ's, ye are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise"; "and they that are of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham." And thus (though by subsequent development, for it was hidden as yet) he stood as the representative of the heavenly seed also, and the blessing of the Most High found its actual scope, as He was possessor of the heavens, those who were in Jesus, having their place there, as well as of the earth, all being gathered together in one in Him. Thus, in the title of God - in the priest himself - in the object of the blessing, we find the great character of universality according to the mystery of His will (His good pleasure which He hath purposed in Himself), "that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, He should gather together in one, all things in Christ": the Jews, being the objects and channels of earthly blessing; and we, sitting in heavenly blessings, priests with Him, ministers of all blessings, and kings withal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the character of the priesthood, as exercised in the passage before us, we see the plain distinction from the Aaronical priesthood. That priesthood was a priesthood of intercession - "He ever liveth to make intercession for us," the saints of God, in our weakness: here is the constant object of His sure and never-failing care and intercession. He has appeared in the presence of God for us; and, I will add, the people of God (I mean the Jews), though under the cloud of His rejection, still waiting till the great High Priest shall come forth, the witness of the acceptance of the blood of the atonement, carried within the veil; and remaining a people blinded indeed, but sustained outwardly as the people of God, by virtue of that service of intercession, till He shall come forth and bless them in the name of the Lord. We know that He has sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; we can see through the rent veil into the holiest of all, and see our Jesus there; and still, though longing and waiting for the time of His appearing, are content, because we know that Jesus is glorified, and His glory sure, waiting only till His enemies be made His footstool, and that the long-suffering of God is salvation, that He delays because He is yet waiting to be gracious and calling sinners, and that He will surely come - He will not tarry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the priestly act of Melchisedec was blessing, not intercession; blessing from the Most High God. Here, then, is the exercise of the priesthood in its Melchisedec character - the King of righteousness and peace blessing the seed of God's acceptance, a blessed refreshing thought; evil removed, and blessing flowing out through the great High Priest, the Priest of the Most High God, Possessor of heaven and earth, unhindered. How do our hearts long for that day, the coming forth of Him our souls long for yet know, the universal blessing from the Most High God of heaven and earth. What a word shall be pronounced in that day! how shall heaven and earth ring with the welcome witness of the blessing of the heavenly; the earthly seed be unfettered in its praise; the bondage of corruption gone from the creature, whose rejoicing, though God was ever good and shewed His goodness in it, was restrained till the heirs of the inheritance of God, joint-heirs with Jesus, were manifested to be sons of God. For, lest a cloud should rest on the brow of the heirs of God's inheritance - the church of the firstborn, the creation in bondage through them must wait for their manifestation for its happiness - must be dependent on their deliverance for its joy, as suffering through their fault. For neither is the blessing of Abraham thus widely spread, the only thing; but honour redounds and praise on high: "Blessed be the Most High God, who hath delivered thine enemies into thine hand." This blessing is after the full destruction of the enemies of the people of God, after the victory over the gathered kings and great ones of the earth, "the hosts of the high ones also [that are] on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth"; for there is one Most High, who is possessor of both, and one King Melchisedec, King of Salem, where praise waits for the God of all the earth. Thus is the echo above and below in that centre of both - one in Him; one with the Father, the Most High God; and who Himself took on Him Abraham's seed, now come forth in His kingly glory to bless us from God Most High, and God from us - the Man of blessing, the Blessing Man, the Lord Most High.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we remark in interpretation most definitely, in connection with all we have said, that it is blessing and refreshment after, and consequent upon, the destruction of all the enemies of those who are represented by Abraham, bringing down and destroying those who destroy the earth by the Lord's power, Himself the servant to refresh. All victory is but in some sort weariness, for victory, if a time of joy, is a time of weariness: if we had none to meet after it, it would be the sorrowful consciousness of destruction, needed, perhaps, for deliverance, but destruction still, God's strange work. But it is not so with the delivered there, nor with us, but in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the Lord shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps, joy of deliverance. And who shall be there to refresh? Even that One who cometh forth to bless. He brings forth bread and wine, the bread of Salem where the King dwelt, but now the servant of the victors, to give the joy of deliverance, and the refreshing of love; the wine of the kingdom drunk new, great deliverance to their parched lips, that they may open in refreshment, and praise, and speak, and think of Him, how great soever, who brought it forth, their Melchisedec making them to sit down to meat, and as he that taketh the yoke from off the neck; the servant of that blessing always, though beyond controversy the less is blessed of the greater.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus then we have in this little sentence the accomplished character of the Most High God, over, and as to, all things in heaven and earth, the one true God, known in blessing, universal blessing, and the unity of all things in Christ; the centre of all this blessing, the benediction priesthood of Melchisedec, the blessing by Him of the redeemed of God. This consequent upon the victory of these, over all their confederate enemies, and the deliverance of every captive; and they all made partakers of the food and wine of the kingdom, brought forth for their joy, and His own rest and delight, by the King of Salem, of righteousness and peace, ministering blessing from the Most High to them, offering it up for them to the Most High. The victory over, the refreshment, as the joy of it from the blessed source, the blessing from His own mouth, the blessing from the Most High, possessor of heaven and earth, proved so in His redeemed, to whom He gives the joy and inheritance, the habitation of both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May the blessing of Melchisedec, of Christ, the Lord, the King, dwell on our spirits; may we see it in spirit, and may it, in type, be our joyful portion now that He is the servant of intercession for us. He is Head, the witness, and the leader of all our praise, in the ages of the fulness of blessing (even when God shall be all in all), as now in the poor congregation of His saints. How imperfectly all the joy of this could be declared, our own enjoyment of it must most surely tell. May the Spirit of our God teach a more skilful tune to those who may take the lesson into their hands, because the chord struck unskilfully has awakened the thoughts of praise in their hearts; and after all, our dying notes here are but poor witnesses to that new song which we shall sing in abiding notes of praise. And may the sweetness of the instrument itself strike some heart as yet untuned. To hear or know how sweet is the melody of heaven, of Jesus' praise, they and we have yet to learn, in the hope and glory of the blessing which rests not only on His head, but is in His heart toward the redeemed of God in full creation, for we are called to inherit a blessing. We have a better portion than reigning - our calling to be with Him: still His reign will be the source of sweet and rich blessings to a delivered earth; Rev. 11: 15.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: Hebrews, typology, Millennium, Dispensationalism, New Covenant, type, dispensation&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116376171599086443?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116376171599086443/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116376171599086443' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116376171599086443'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116376171599086443'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/11/jn-darby-on-melchisedek-priesthood-of.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Melchisedek Priesthood of Christ'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116354567533078722</id><published>2006-11-14T14:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:41:30.951-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby and the Jews</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby believed that God's promise to Abraham was unconditional and that one day the Jewis people would be converted and restored to the land of promise in connection with the establishment of the Millennial Kingdom. When Jewish people were converted he rejoiced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not give money to the &lt;a href="http://http://watch.pair.com/new-israel.html"&gt;Zionist movement&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not encourage the Jews to build a temple in Jerusalem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not publish magazines all about events in the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not start special prayer meetings focused on the Jews.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not think that converting Jews had a special priority over and above preaching the Gospel to all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby had no sentimental fondness for the Jewish people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not display the &lt;a href="http://watch.pair.com/mark.html"&gt;Star of David &lt;/a&gt;anywhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not encourage converted Jews to call themselves &lt;a href="http://withchrist.org/MJS/messianic.htm"&gt;'Messianic Jews'&lt;/a&gt; or to set up 'Messianic Synagogues.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not think converted Jews had some &lt;a href="http://watch.pair.com/HRM.html"&gt;special insight&lt;/a&gt; into the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not listen to 'Messianic music'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not do Jewish dancing in the assembly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not expect a revival among the Jews before the rapture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not refer to our Lord as &lt;a href="http://www.seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.htm"&gt;Yeshua, Y'shua, Yahshua or any variation of this name.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not refer to the apostle Paul as Sh'aul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Darby did not celebrate the Jewish feasts and did not see them as a way to evangelize the Jews.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby did, however, believe that the Antichrist would be a Jew, that the Jews would fall into ever deeper apostasy as the end approached and that many doctrinal errors could be traced to Judaizing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: J.N. Darby, Jews, Israel, Messianic Judaism, Christian Zionism, Zionist, Dispensationalism, Premillennialism, Premillennial, Hebrew Roots&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116354567533078722?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116354567533078722/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116354567533078722' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116354567533078722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116354567533078722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/11/jn-darby-and-jews.html' title='J.N. Darby and the Jews'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116318488518759079</id><published>2006-11-10T10:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.822-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby defends Infant Baptism</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;(views expressed here do not necessarilly reflect my own)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A letter of John Nelson Darby&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Mrs. Walter, - I should never, and never have, as you know, pressed any to baptise their children, or introduced the subject. Indeed, while fully recognising it as a christian ordinance, I am disposed to think that it is in scripture, for our present condition, purposely left in the background. While eternal life and union with Christ are fixed and sure in Him, the ordering of all on earth till Christ comes, and even then, is provisional; not that we have not duties in the state of things we are in; duties belong to that: but the ordering of things passes. We have a kingdom that cannot be moved, eternal life, membership of Christ; but this in actual full possession is to come, and what we have now, even of divine ordinances, is passing. But I repeat, our duties are now. I shall only therefore present to you what scripture affords me on the subject, for if ever I hesitated, and, like others, I was exercised about it, I have NO doubt as to infant baptism of the children of a Christian. But I have a full feeling that Christ did not send me to baptise; I leave to others activities on either side. The twelve were sent to baptise, but as to ecclesiastical matters, we are under Paul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This for such questions is an all-important remark, because the commission to the Gentiles (on which you and all Baptists rest) was given up by the leading apostles into his hands. But in general he, and he only, taught what the Church was, and it is on that ground we are. Further remark, the commission to the twelve was not from heaven, nor consequently immediately connecting with heaven, but from Galilee, and a commission to bring the nations into connection with an accepted remnant of Jews on earth - not to bring Jew and Gentile into the body in an ascended Christ, which was Paul's commission especially, preaching withal reconciliation from heaven to every creature under it. His original commission is remarkable in this respect. A heavenly Christ was revealed to him - "delivering [separating] thee from the people and from the Gentiles, to whom now I send thee." He belonged neither to Jew nor Gentile in his service, but to heaven. Hence he in baptism knows nothing but baptising to death to all man is, and at the utmost resurrection with Christ into a new state of things. With Peter it is: you have crucified Christ, God has raised and exalted Him. Hence they were to repent and be baptised for the remission of sins, and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Nor does he even go to our death with Christ, or our resurrection with Him. Nay, in Acts 3 he proposes to the Jews to repent, and Jesus would be sent back, and the people would be blessed by the times of refreshing of which the prophets had spoken.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You will say: This is a long story on what is simple; but it is on the mission of the twelve you found your doctrine. That was only to disciple Gentile nations and baptise them. Of the carrying out of this we have no account in scripture: the nearest to it is in Mark, the last verse. But we have an enlarged account of Paul's taking their place; and it is remarkable that Roman Catholics and Puseyites all rest on the commission to the twelve, not on that to Paul. But where in Mark baptism is spoken of it is upon wholly another ground: "he that believeth and is baptised, shall be saved." It was the gospel to a lost world, to every creature, and if a man believed and was baptised, he was saved. It concerns a heathen or a Jew confessing Christ, who before did not, and what is called joining Christians, and as "with the heart man believeth unto righteousness" so "with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Here it had a saving force founded on faith, but that is not the question now. No one can in this sense say a man is saved by baptism, but that is the only use of it in Mark. The Campbellites have this view of it as an ordinance, but with grievous errors, and false in itself, as man's act and not as becoming a Christian. Further remark, that the hundred and twenty first formed into the Church by the coming of the Holy Ghost, or, at any rate, the twelve, were never baptised. I know it is said they had John's baptism, and no doubt rightly, some certainly, and all with little doubt; but that was the opposite of christian baptism. It was to receive Christ; christian baptism is to His death - to a rejected Christ as such at God's right hand; and one baptised with John baptism had to be baptised again, as in Acts 19.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The command was to baptise, not to be baptised, and this makes all the difference. It is not an act of obedience, in this the scripture is quite clear. Acts 8. (verse 37 is not genuine*), he says, "what doth hinder me to be baptised?" it was a privilege to be obtained; but the words do not allow the idea of obedience, but exclude it. So Acts 10, 47, "can any man forbid water?" - a privilege, no idea of obedience, but an admission into the christian estate consequent on the proof that God would have him: and indeed it would be cruel to make it a matter of obedience, as no man can fulfil it; another must do it for him. The admission to a privilege cannot be a matter of obedience, though obedience gives privileges as such. But the real point is, the passages prove that it was the act of the baptiser, not of the baptised. And this changes its whole nature. It is said, Where are children commanded to receive baptism? of course they are not, nor believers. Ordinances are never the subject of commands. They are ordained and rightly used, but never obedience in him who profits by them; it would deny the very nature of Christianity, and destroy the blessing for him who partakes of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;{*Griesbach rejects it, and it is cancelled or rejected by Grotius, Mill, Wetstein, Pearce, Tittman, Knapp, Lachmann, Tischendorf, and others; it is not found in the Vatican MS., nor in the ancient Syriac.}&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another important principle destroyed by the Baptist system is the existence of a divinely instituted place in which blessing is, independently of the question of personal conversion, and to which responsibility is attached according to the blessing: as the olive tree in Romans, whose branches are broken off and grafted in again or replaced by others who are broken off afterwards, branches where the root and fatness of the olive tree is, yet they come to nothing; so Hebrews 6, 10. So 1 Corinthians 10, where the sacraments, so-called, are shewn to be the ground of this in Christendom, and so the house in 1 Corinthians 3, where wood, hay and stubble are built in with false doctrines, but it is God's building. And in 1 Peter 4: 17 judgment was to begin at the house of God, alluding to Ezekiel. So we see it as a principle in Romans 3: "What advantage then hath the Jew? . . . much every way." But he was condemned, not converted. So the wicked servant who ate and drank with the drunken: was "that servant" the same as the faithful one and Christ his Lord?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another principle used by Baptists is that it is a formal testimony to what a person has already. This is quite unscriptural. We are baptised to death - not because we have died - rise therein, if I bring in resurrection: it saves us, says Peter - is not used as a witness of being saved. "Arise and be baptised (says Ananias) and wash away thy sins," not in confession that thy sins are washed away. Thus the whole system of Baptists I find to be unscriptural. It is not obedience: that the Baptist brethren now admit: it is not testimony to what we have. The apostles were not baptised, but the twelve were sent to baptise the Gentiles, being themselves received by Christ. Paul was not sent to do it at all, though he was formally sent, from and by a heavenly Christ, to the Gentiles by a new commission, the leaders of the twelve giving theirs up and going to the circumcision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is it then? A formal admission into the place of privilege. Water cannot be refused to Cornelius: nothing hindered the treasurer of Candace from being baptised. 1 Corinthians 10 clearly shews that it is the admission into public outward association with God, as when Israel crossed the Red Sea, as the Lord's supper is a sign and expression of food and drink in the desert. It is not a sign even of life - not of being baptised into Christ's body, nor of being made children. In Paul's teaching it is death; in Peter or Ananias, saving, washing away sins, as a sign, a passing from the state of sinful man into the place where God's privileges were, specially the presence of the Holy Ghost, who is among the saints in God's house as Satan is in the world. Paul in Titus 3 recognises the same truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question then is, are children entitled to be received? are believers? Believers, clearly, if they have not yet been; if they have, they cannot be again. But supposing they have not, they are clearly received by baptism; and, in an ordinary way, at the beginning, those in received the Holy Ghost, as said in Acts 2, and may be seen in Acts 8. Can children, or are they to be left out where Satan rules? Scripture, I believe, gives a Christian parent a title to bring them to Christ, but this can only be now scripturally by death as baptism figures it, for "that which is born of the flesh is flesh." If baptism be the reception of children where the Holy Ghost is, and where they can be brought up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, and taught to obey, which till they are Christians as to position they cannot be, the question is, Is a christian parent obliged to leave his child outside with the devil, or allowed to bring him in where the Holy Ghost and the care of God's house is? Scripture tells one that children of a christian parent are holy, have a right to be admitted, are not as children of a Jew who had married a Gentile unclean, that is, unfit to be admitted among God's people, but holy. I know it is said the husband was so too. It is not true where the sense is looked to, The Jewish husband was profaned not profane, could not be profaned if he had been: it is what is holy that is profaned, nothing else can be. Now it is grace, and the unbeliever is "sanctified," not holy; the child is "holy". The Lord Himself has said, "Of such is the kingdom of heaven." It is said, Why not give them the Lord's supper? Because that is the sign of the unity of the body, and it is the baptism of the Holy Ghost that forms that. Baptists always reason instead of going to scripture. I have no difficulty with Baptists who think they have never been baptised; of course they ought to be. They have never been regularly admitted among Christians on earth; they may be of the body (as Cornelius) by the baptism of the Holy Ghost, but they have never been formally admitted to the house on earth, the place where the Holy Ghost dwells.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This answers another question you put - the converted and unconverted being baptised together. If it is admission into the house they are all admitted together, cannot be on any different principle. If it be obedience, then indeed there is; but scripture is in the teeth of this: to separate them would be to deny the principle on which any are baptised at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I respect the conscience of a Baptist; I repeat, if he think he never has been baptised he ought to be, but it is as clear to me as the day that his principles are totally unscriptural.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing can be clearer then, that in the New Testament it is never treated as obedience. If it were, we were saved by our own obedience, have our sins washed away by our own obedience; for this is what is said of baptism. I understand quite well that a heathen coming to baptism does administratively receive the remission of his sins: every one is baptised to it. I understand too that one who has been as a heathen and converted coming to the faith - to such it is practically a first confession of Christ and that they are very happy - but obedience of a believer to an ordinance is all wrong from beginning to end; as to the Lord's supper as well as baptism. If a man think it is - I do not blame him for doing it, but it is wholly unintelligent. If a friend was to say, keep this in remembrance of me, and I said, I will do what you bid me, my friend would have no thanks to give me. The gift was not valued. You see it is a wide subject, but the great principle is that the children of a christian parent are holy; and so far from children being unfit subjects, "of such is the kingdom of heaven" - not Christ's, note, on earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The truth Baptists have to learn is that there is a place, a system established by God, where the blessings are found - the olive-tree fatness - without the question of conversion being settled, in which heathen, Mohammedans, and now for a time Jews are not, but in which these last will hereafter again be, though not on our footing. I know it is said you are bringing us back to Judaism. I answer, in this respect the apostle does in 1 Corinthians 10 and Romans 11: and baptism does not refer to the body with which they had nothing to do, nor to giving life (which, if they had, was not brought to light, and they had it only in the state of servants), but the dwelling-place of God, which they were then, which Christendom is now, and according to which, or as which, it will be judged - a very weighty consideration. All is so in confusion that this house is hard to own, but that does not alter the truth of scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A word as to the place of parents; God has given them children; but "that which is born of the flesh is flesh." But the love of God is trusted, and the grace of Christ who receives such, and also the word believed that blessing is there where God has placed it. They cannot leave their children without in Satan's world; they bring them to be received as holy, as regards God's ways and dealings. The Church cannot receive them but through death, but receives them in Christ's name as if receiving Him, as He says, and the name of Jesus is called upon them through this image of His death too; and while received into God's congregation where the Holy Ghost is, and where all should be a pattern to them, they are given back to the parents in grace with Jesus' name on them to bring them up for Him, not for the world, "in the nurture and admonition of the Lord." I receive them then because they are holy relatively, because Christ received them, and "of such is the kingdom of heaven," and I can receive them in no other scriptural way - with the sign of Christ's death and of His love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no objection to any one reading this letter, but . . . it is not the time to occupy the church with ordinances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ever sincerely yours in the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Elberfeld, November 4th, 1869.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;key words: Paedobaptism, Baptist, church, ecclesiology, ordinances, Dispensationalism, kingdom of heaven, House of God, Christendom, dispensational, Exclusive Brethren, Plymouth Brethren&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116318488518759079?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116318488518759079/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116318488518759079' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116318488518759079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116318488518759079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/11/jn-darby-defends-infant-baptism.html' title='J.N. 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Darby on Women</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not accept a woman’s going out to evangelise. I never saw a woman meddle in teaching and church matters, but she brought mischief upon herself and everyone else. If she sits down with a company before her to teach them, she has got out of her place altogether. We read of Tryphena and Tryphosa, who laboured in the Lord, and the beloved Persis too- each in her own place of service. You find all honour done to women in the Gospels; but the Lord never sent a woman out to preach; neither did a man ever go and anoint Christ for burial. The woman’s prophesying was not preaching. There came inspired teaching to which they gace utterance. I believe it was in an extraordinary way, as Phillip's daughters. Women can by used, as Mary magdalene was sent by Christ to His disciples. If Christ sent a woman to carry a message, the best she could do would be to go and carry it, it is but a message. Suppose it was written down and was special instruction, the teaching then was in the message, not in Mary Magdalene's place. Scripture says, "I suffer not a woman to teach." She was not to teach at all. She can lead on those who have been converted without setting up to be a teacher. Teaching is expounding to people put under you to recieve certain doctrines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The apostle is not speaking of wearing the sign of subjection at all times, but I believe it owuld be very comely. "For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels," v.10. She is therein a spectacle with all present to the angels, and angels ought not to see disorder among Christians. The whole subject is modesty, and order, and comeliness, and things in their right place. Therefore the woman ought to have power on her head on account of the angels, that is, the sign of subjection to her husband. Angels should learn something in the church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Notes of Readings in 1 Corinthians&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt;, vol.26, p.255&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116255487156518485?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116255487156518485/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116255487156518485' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116255487156518485'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116255487156518485'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/11/jn-darby-on-women.html' title='J.N. Darby on Women'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116152313814392352</id><published>2006-10-22T06:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-10-22T06:18:58.156-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Dispensation of the Kingdom of Heaven</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I state synoptically what has been followed out as the subject arose. The kingdom of heaven we have as a state of things during the period when the Son is sitting on the Father's throne. During this period the children are in the Son's, but heirs of the Father's kingdom- a period during which the world is not ordered according to the righteous judicial power of the Son of Man's kingdom- the interval between the rejection of the Son of man upon earth abd His reigning upon earth, in which the saints are sustained by the Spirit, in the midst of the world, by the Spirit sent of the the Son by the Father, the witness of His exaltation there. Of this state of things, this chapter (Matthew 13) is full of prophetic announcement. The external character which it assumes in the world being depicted in the first three; the real blessing and value and the judgment of its results, its internal character in God's sight, in the last three of the six parables. It closes in the setting up of the Son of man's kingdom upon the earth, and the assumption of te righteous, during its continuance, to the Father's kingdom in the heavenlies. The first parable is the world of the kingdom. The expositions and internal view of the church or kingdom are given to the disciples; the judicial blindness of the Jews is declared, and the special privilege of the saints; and the parables are spoken distinctively as the 'utterance of things hidden from the world,' which the Spirit reveals to those 'who have ears to hear.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;The Dispensation of the Kingdom of Heaven &lt;/em&gt;in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby&lt;/em&gt;, vol.2, p.63&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(This is an extract from one of Darby's early writings. These are quite exciting to read, because we see the Dispensational system being outlined for the first time.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key Words: John Nelson Darby, Plymouth Brethren, Bible Prophecy, eschatology, parables, kingdom of heaven, mysteries, mystery, dispensation, Dispensationalism, Second Coming&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116152313814392352?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116152313814392352/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116152313814392352' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116152313814392352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116152313814392352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/10/jn-darby-on-dispensation-of-kingdom-of.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Dispensation of the Kingdom of Heaven'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116145846072794260</id><published>2006-10-21T12:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-10-21T12:21:04.466-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/10/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award_21.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our award to countries where removing shoes in homes is customary.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116145846072794260?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/10/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award_21.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116145846072794260/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116145846072794260' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116145846072794260'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116145846072794260'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/10/shoes-off-at-door-please-this-weeks.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-116126259513319598</id><published>2006-10-19T05:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.822-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Presence of the Holy Ghost in the Church</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We may take notice in all this that it has nothing to do whatever to do with the dwelling in an individual. It was a distinct thought altogether. The serious question is, are we worse off now as to this? There were then also operations of the Holy Ghost in the way of prophecy and testimony, but it was a distinct thing. We may expect this to be modified in many ways when the Holy Ghost was sent down from heaven; because in Christ, where our proper acceptance is, we are characterised rather as dwelling with God- in His house. Still the other is true by the Holy Ghost sent down. What we have to inquire is, whether the presence of God in the midst of His people is spoken of in the New Testament, and that distinct from His gracious presence in the individual. If there be any material modification of it, this may also claim our attention. It would be difficult to suppose that there was less real presence of God in the midst of His people now than under the Old Testament. It is true we look for His presence in glory; but surely meanwhile the main doctrine, as to the actual condition and existence of the Church, is the presence of God sent down from heaven, as truly and really the presence of God in the midst of His people as the Shecinah of glory. If God was in His holy temple then, God is in His holy temple now- most truly, though after another manner: not merely in individuals, the aggregate of whose individual blessing is the blessing of the whole, but in His spiritual temple, the Church of the living God. And here I would remark further, that His personal presence as acting in any power in the Church is wholly denied. It may not be in words(this I should think much lessof; the faith of simple saints might at once meet it); but it is undermined and taken from us without our being aware of it. It is vain to cry out about its not being fair to impute to a person what he denies. Are the saints to be robbed of their heritage and blessing, because he who does so denies he is doing it? It may be through ignorance, but it is much fairer to detect than to deny it, if the thing be so. Man may speak of the Spirit, may use Him, may act under His gracious influence, but He, the Holy Ghost does not act. That would be impulse. No one pretends to inspiration in the way of new revelation, but simply that the Holy Ghost acts in leading, guiding, filling and using the vessel. That is, He acts by us. The distinction, however, is wholly unscriptural. The Holy Ghost speaking by a man and a man speaking by the Holy Ghost are used as equivalent terms; as Acts 1:16; ch.6:10; ch.20:24; ch.21:4, 11; compare chapter 11:28, ch.28:25; Mark 12:36; compare Matthew 22:43. The difference of the expression most clearly amounts to the lowest Arminianism as to the Holy Ghost. That is, man acts by it, but the Holy Ghost does not act by man. And I beg the attention of brethren to this- it is just simply not believing in the personal presence and actings of the Holy Ghost. I am satisfied that it is simply unbelief in the presence and actings of the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now to the statements of the New Testament on the subject. That the presence of the Comforter is the distinguishing truth of this dispensation, founded on the work of Christ, I ought not to be obliged to insist on. Suffice it to say, that it is on the fact of this presence that the Lord grounds the advantage of His going away. 'If I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I go away, I will send him unto you.' And all the blessing, communion, and testimony (save the personal testimony of the disciples as living with Him, and that was by His bringing all to their remembrance), if founded on the presence, personal presence of this other Comforter. This is evidently of the last importance. Here it is well to remark on the force of this word 'Comforter.' He was One who, by being down here, was to take the place of Jesus when He went away; and was to take up and carry on the cause of the disciples as Christ had done, only more powerfully in a certain way because of Christ's work and exaltation. It is the same word as is said of Christ, 'we have an advocate with the Father'- one who is charged with and maintains our cause. This the Holy Ghost was to do, and to guide, comfort, sustain and direct the disciples as Jesus had done, with the difference noted. And further, He was not to leave them as Christ had; He was to abide with them for ever. This name of One come down to take Christ's place, and abiding for ever is of all moment in this case; for as the Holy Ghost, come as the Paraclete, who was to be among them in His stead (though glorifying Him), and to act among and for, and by them; and lead, and guide, and correct, and direct and sustain them, and to be with them for ever. This was not merely natural qualities sanctified by grace, and man acting by the Spirit; it was a living divine Person acting for them, and by them. That, He being grieved (an dwithal in the sovereign counsels of God), much of that in which He shewed His power is lost, is true; but to say, because man has abused this grace, and feebleness has followed, because God has not honoured those who did not honour Him, or because the flesh has abused the doctrine, that He does not dwell amongst us, is merely that kind of unbelief hateful to God, which is called in Scripture, 'tempting God.' The palce was called Massah and Meribah, 'because they tempted God, saying, Is the Lord amongst us or no?' And here I will remark on the 'with us,' and the 'in us.' The distinction is perfectly scriptural. The Lord said (John 14:25), 'These things I have said unto you, being yet &lt;em&gt;present with you&lt;/em&gt;'- the exact phrase of in Greek which is used concerning the Holy Ghost, translated 'He dwelleth with you.' Christ was yet dwelling with them, but another Comforter was to come whom they would know (though the world would not, because it di dnot see Him) because He dwelt with them; and then He adds, as to the manner (which was not so of Jesus come in the flesh) a new thing, and therefore put in the future tense, 'He shall be in you.' This new paraclete was to be their Counsellor, Guide, Orderer (as Jesus had been), manage their cause and affairs as dwelling with them. Hence we see the importance of distinguishing this living presence and acting of a Comforter from a man's using his talents in a sanctified way by grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, further, this is fully brought out in Scripture as a distinct thing from being in individual members. Both are spoken of to different purposes in Scripture. 'Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, whcih ye have of God; and ye are not your own?' etc. (1 Cor. 6:19). Here accordingly it si applied to personal sanctification. 'Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are,' 1 Cor.3:16,17. Here it is clearly the Church of God, the building of God whcih some might corrupt by false doctrine. They were God's building. The Spirit of God does then clearly distinguish the dwelling in the body. And this is so much the same thought and connected with the idea of the presence of God in Israel, that in 2 Corinthians 6:16 it si distinctly introduced. 'For ye are the temple of the living God: as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God and they shall be my people.' And now I would ask, What is there debasing in the blessed doctrine that God dwells in His holy temple? We might perhaps say (were it not for that precious blood of Christ which has cleansed us) that it was a debasing idea that the Holy Ghost should dwell in our poor wretched bodies as His temple. But His testimony is to the value of that precious blood as cleansing us, so that His presence in the believer is a glorious testimony to the infinite presciousness of Christ's work, and His presence at the right hand of the Father. But His presence in the Church as His temple, though no doubt founded on the same great truth, is at least more easily apprehended. Because when I think of the Church, I do not think of the flesh, but only of the redeemed people of God on earth. Here my soul says easily, the Holy Ghost can dwell. It belongs to Christ, whom the Spirit glorifies. Both, we have seen, are true; but when I think of a man, I think readily of what he is in his infirmity; and (though it would be wrong) might be easily led to say, Can the Holy Ghost dwell in such poor vile creatures? But when I think of the Church, I do not think of the first Adam state. I think of the fruit of Christ's redemption. Here, my heart says, the Holy Ghost ought to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;The Presence of the Holy Ghost in the Church &lt;/em&gt;in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby&lt;/em&gt;, vol.3, p.346-350&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: John Nelson Darby, Plymouth Brethren, ecclesiology, church, Holy Spirit, Pneumatology, indwelling&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-116126259513319598?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/116126259513319598/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=116126259513319598' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116126259513319598'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/116126259513319598'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/10/jn-darby-on-presence-of-holy-ghost-in.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Presence of the Holy Ghost in the Church'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115990771813810187</id><published>2006-10-03T13:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.823-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Separation and Holiness</title><content type='html'>by J.N. Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holiness, then, is separation &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt; God, if it be real, as well as &lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt; evil; for thus alone we are in the light, for God is light. This is true, in our first sanctifying- we are brought to know God, brought to God. If we come to ourselves it is, "I will arise and go no farther." If it is restoration, "If thou wilt return, return unto me." Indeed a soul is never restored really till it does; for it is not in the light so as to purge flesh, even if the fruits of the flesh have been confessed; nor is sin seen as it is in God's sight. Hence love comes in, in all true conversion and restoration, however dimly seen, or through however dark workings of conscience. We want to get back to God; there is forgiveness with Him that He may be feared; otherwise it is despair which drives us further away. Indeed, what would or could restoration be if it were not to God. But, in the full sense of gathering, that is to common fellowship, it is clearly the blessed object which reveals that in which we are to have fellowship, which so gathers. We are to have fellowship in something, that is, with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. This, then, must draw hearts to itself, that in their common delight in it their fellowship may exist. The principle of the tract is this, that in doing this it must separate from evil. It is 'this-then-is-the-message' part of the statement. So Christ says, 'If I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.' Now here was perfect love, entire separation from all sin and condemnation of it. 'In that He died, He died unto sin once'- separation from the world, and deliverance from the whole power of the enemy and the scene of it. It is perfect love drawing from everything to itself; shewing all was evil, absorbing the soul into what was good, in a saving way from it. But when we follow Him into life, all is gone from which He separated. 'In that he liveth, he liveth unto God'; that is His whole being, so to speak. Now He is, in this life, made higher than the heavens- the divine glory I do not hear enter into, but the life. It is a heavenly place He takes, and our gathering through the cross is to Him there, in the good where evil cannot come. There is our communion- entering into the Father's house in spirit. And this, I apprehend, is the true character of the assembly, of the church, for worship in its full sense. It remembers the cross, it worships, the world left out, and all known in heaven before God. He gave Himself that He might gather into one. But here I anticipate a little, for I am speaking as yet of the object, not of the active power. I apprehend that what separates the saint from evil, what makes him holy, is the revelation of an object (I mean, of course, through the Holy Ghost working), which draws his soul to that as good, and thereby reveals evil to him, and makes him judge it in spirit and soul: his knowledge of good and evil is, then, not a mere uneasy conscience, but sanctification; that is, sanctification is resting, by the enlightening of the Holy Ghost, on an object, which by its nature, purifies the affections by being their object- creates them through the power of grace. Even under the law it had this form, 'Be ye holy for I am holy'; though I admit, it there partook necessarilly of the character of the dispensation. In the cross we have these two great principles perfectly brought out. Love is clearly shown, the blessed object which draws the heart; yet the most solemn judgment of and separation from evil; such is God's perfectness- the foolishness and weakness of God. Divine attraction in love, evil in all its horror and forms, perfectly abhorred by him who is attracted and attaches himself to that. The soul goes with sin, as sin, to love, and goes there because love thus displayed has shewn him that it is sin, in being made sin for us. This is the power objectively that separates from evil, and ends all connection with it; for I die then to all the nature I lived to. Evil ceases to be, through faith, as I live hereafter in blessed actvity in love. But I have, perhaps, dwelt long enough on what ojectively gathers and gives fellowship; and surely, our fellowship, communion, is in that which is good- and as heavenly by no evil being there. Imperfectly realised no doubt here, but so far as it is not, fellowship is destroyed, for the flesh has none. Hence it is said: 'If we walk in the light as God is in the light, we have fellowship with one another.' But we cannot walk out of darkness but by walking in the light, that is, with God: and God is love, and were He not, we could not walk there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Unity and Gathering&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby&lt;/em&gt;, vol.1, p.372-373&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: John Nelson Darby, ecclesiology, Exclusive Brethren, Plymouth Brethren, separation, sanctification, church&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115990771813810187?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115990771813810187/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115990771813810187' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115990771813810187'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115990771813810187'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/10/jn-darby-on-separation-and-holiness.html' title='J.N. Darby on Separation and Holiness'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115876613758793409</id><published>2006-09-20T08:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T08:28:57.606-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Persecution</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby, commenting on Acts 14, wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"They gave them to understand that Christ was not come to bring peace on the earth which would meet with the opposition and enmity of the world, but that through much tribulation they must enter the kingdom of God. It was a warning for all times to make men understand that persecution was not a strange thing. "All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution" -not, however, all Christians. If a Christian conforms to the world, he will avoid persecution; but he will lose the joy of the Holy Ghost and communion with God; he will be saved as by fire, and an entrance into the eternal kingdom shall not be abundantly ministered to him. If we walk with God, we shall not be barren in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I speak thus, because for many the time of open persecution has passed away; but if we are faithful, we shall most surely experience persecution both from the world and from our own families. The world cannot tolerate faithfulness. If the Christian walk with the world, instead of winning the world to Christ, he himself gets a distance from Him, and will lose, I do not say life, but his spiritual privileges, his joy, and the approval of Christ; and his testimony is against Christianity. By his ways he declares that the friendship of the world is not enmity against God. The Christian whne with the world is in no respects at ease; and when in the compnay of spiritual Christians his conscience reproves him because he is walking badly, and that which is the joy to them, he cannot enter into. May all who are disposed to or in danger of being let to mingle with the ways of the world give heed to this exhortation!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Meditations on the Acts of the Apostles&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby&lt;/em&gt;, vol.25, p.374-375&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: J.N. Darby, Plymouth Brethren, Perserverance, apostasy, discipleship, carnal Christians, falling away, Lordship Salvation&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115876613758793409?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115876613758793409/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115876613758793409' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115876613758793409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115876613758793409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/09/jn-darby-on-persecution.html' title='J.N. Darby on Persecution'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115869004512054945</id><published>2006-09-19T11:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.823-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Separation and Unity</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Here I might close my remarks, having developed the great, though simple, principle, flowing from the very nature of God, that separation from evil is His principle of unity. But a difficulty collateral to my main object and subject presents itself. Supposing evil introduces itself into this one body so formed actually on earth, does the principle still hold good? How then can separation from evil maintain unity? And here we can touch on the mystery of iniquity. But this principle, flowing from the very nature of God, that He is holy, cannot be set aside. Separation from evil is the necessary consequence of the presence of the Spirit of God under all circumstances as to conduct and fellowship. But here there is a certain modification of it. The revealed presence of God is always judicial when it exists; because power against evil is connected with the holiness which rejects it. Thus in Israel God's presence was judicial; His goverment was there, which did not allow evil. So, though in another manner, it is in the church. God's presence is judicial there- not in the world, save in testimony, because God is not yet revealed in the world; and hence it plucks up no tares out of that field. But it judges them that are within.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hence the church is to put out from itself the wicked person, and thus maintains its separation from evil. And unity is maintained in the power of the Holy Ghost and a good conscience. And indeed, that the Spirit may not be grieved and the practical blessing lost, saints are exhorted to look dilligently lest any man fail of the grace of God. Amd how sweet and blessed is this garden of the Lord, when it is thus maintained and blooms in the fragrance of Christ's grace. But, alas! we know worldliness creeps in, and spiritual power declines; the taste for this blessing is enfeebled, because it is not enjoyed in the power of the Spirit; the spiritual fellowship with Christ the heavenly Head decays, and the power which banishes evil out of the church is no longer in living exercise. The body is not sufficently animated by the Holy Ghost to answer the mind of God. But God will never leave Himself without witness. He brings home the evil to the body by some testimony or other- by the word or by judgements, or both in succession- to recall it to its spiritual energy, and lead it to maintain His glory and place. If it refuse to answer to the very nature and character of God, and to the incompatibility of that nature with evil (so that it becomes really a false witness for God), then the first and immutable principle recurs, the evil must be separated from.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, the unity which is maintained after such separation, becomes a testimony to the compatability of the Holy Ghost with evil: that is, it is in its nature apostasy; it maintains the name and authority of God in His church, and associates it with evil. It is not the professed open apostasy of avowed infidelity; but it is denying God according to the true power of the Holy Ghost, while using His name. This unity is the great power of evil pointed out in the New Testament, connected with the professing church and the form of piety. From such we are to turn away. This power of evil in the church may be discerned spiritually, and left when there is the consciousness of inability to effect any remedy; or if there be an open public testimony, it is then open condemnation to it. Thus, previous to the Reformation, God gave light to many who maintained a witness to this very evil in the professing church, apart from it; some bore testimony and still remained. When the Reformation came it was openly and publicly given, and the professing body or Romanism became opnely and avowedly apostate, as far as a professing Christian body can, in the Council of Trent. But wherever the body declines the putting away of evil, it becomes in its unity a denier of God's character of holiness, and then separation from the evil is the path of the saint; and the unity he has left is the very greatest evil that can exist where the name of Christ is named. Saints may remain, as they have in Romanism, where there is not power to gather all saints together; but the duty of the saint as to it is plain on the first principles of Christianity, though doubtless his faith may be exercised by it. 'Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.' It is possible that he that departs from evil may make himself a prey; but this, of corse, makes no difference; it is a question of faith. He is in the true power of God's unity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, then, the word of God affords us the true nature, object and power of unity; and, in so doing, it gives us the measure of it, by which we judge of what pretends to it, and the manner of it; and, moreover, the means of maintaining its fundamental principles according to the nature and power of God by the Holy Ghost in the conscience where it may not be realised together in power. It nature flows from God's; for of true unity He must be the centre, and He is holy; and He brings us into it by separating us from evil. Its object is Christ; He is the sole centre of the church's unity, objectively as its Head. Its power is the presence of the Holy Ghost down here, sent as the Spirit of Truth withal from the Father by Jesus. Its measure is walking in the light, as God is in the light; fellowship with the Father, and with His Son Jesus, and we may add, through the testimony of the written word- the apostolic and prophetic word of the New Testament especially. It is built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets (of the New Testament), Jesus Christ Himself being the corner stone. The means of maintaining it is putting away evil judicially if needed), so as to maintain, through the Spirit, fellowship with the Father and the Son. If evil be not put away, then separation from that which does not becomes a matter of conscience. I return, if alone, into the essential and infallible unity of the body, in its everlasting principles of union with the Head in a holy nature by the Spirit. The path of the saints thus becomes clear. God will secure by eternal power the vindication, not here perhaps, but before His angels, of them who have rightly owned His nature and truth in Christ Jesus. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe these fundamental principles are deeply needed in this day, for the saint who seeks to walk truly and thoroughly with God. Latitudinarian unity it may be painful and trying to keep aloof from; it has an amiable form in general, is in measure respectable in the religious world, tries nobody's conscience, and allows of everbody's will. It is the more difficult to be decided about, because it is often connected with a true desire of good, and is associated with amiable nature. And it seems rigid, and narrow, and sectarianism to decline so to walk. But the saint, when he has the light of God, must walk clearly in that. God will vindicate His ways in due time. Love to every saint is a clear duty; walking in their ways is not. And he that gathers not with Christ scatters. There can be but one unity; confederacy, even for good, is not it, even if it have its form. Unity, professed to be connected with the clerical principle, because that is needed to maintain unity, when the Spirit is not in power, and in fact, takes its place, guides, rules, governs in its place, under the plea of priesthood, or ministry, owned as a distinct body, a separate institution: it would not hold together without this."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Separation from Evil: God's Principle of Unity &lt;/em&gt;in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby &lt;/em&gt;vol.1, p.362-365 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: J.N. Darby, separation, unity, Plymouth Brethren, church discipline, putting away evil, Exclusive Brethren&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115869004512054945?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115869004512054945/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115869004512054945' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115869004512054945'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115869004512054945'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/09/jn-darby-on-separation-and-unity.html' title='J.N. Darby on Separation and Unity'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115807966131309698</id><published>2006-09-12T09:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T09:47:41.446-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on 2 Thessalonians 2</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In answering this error, and in guarding them from the wily efforts of seducers, he puts everything in its place here by appealing to precious truths of which he had already spoken. Their gathering together unto Christ in the air was a demonstration of the impossibility of the day of the Lord being already come. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moreover with regard to this last he presents two considerations: first, the day could not be already come, since Christians were not yet gathered to the Lord, and they were to come with Him; second, the wicked one who has then to be judged had not yet appeared, so that the judgment could not be executed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The apostle had already instructed the Thessalonians with regard to this wicked one, when at Thessalonica; and in the former epistle he had taught them concerning the rapture of the church. In order that the Lord should come in judgment, iniquity must have reached its height, and open opposition to God have been manifested. But the truth had another and more precious side: the saints were to be in the same position as Christ, to be gathered together unto Him, before He could manifest Himself in glory to those outside. But these truths require a more connected examination. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their gathering together unto Christ before the manifestation was a truth known to the Thessalonians; it is not revealed here, it is used as an argument. The Lord Jesus was coming, but it was impossible that He should be without His church in the glory. The King would indeed punish His rebellious subjects; but, before doing so, He would bring to Himself those who had been faithful to Him amid the unfaithful, in order to bring them back with Him and publicly to honour them in the midst of the rebels. But the apostle here speaks only of the rapture itself, and he adjures them only by that truth not to allow themselves to be shaken in mind as though the day were come. What an assured truth must this have been to Christians, since the apostle could appeal to it as to a known point, on which the heart could rest! The relationship of the church to Christ, its being necessarily in the same position with Him rendered the idea that the day was already come a mere folly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the second place, the already known fact is asserted, that the apostacy must previously take place, and then the man of sin be revealed. Solemn truth! Everything takes its place. The forms and the name of Christianity have long been maintained; true Christians have been disowned; but now there should be a public renunciation of the faith-an apostacy. True Christians should have their true place in heaven. But, besides this, there should be a person who would fully realise in sin the character of man without God. He is the man of sin. He does his own will-it is but Adam fully developed; and incited by the enemy, he opposes himself to God (it is open enmity against God), and he exalts himself above all that bears the name of God; he assumes the place of God in His temple. So that there is apostacy, that is, the open renunciation of Christianity in general, and an individual who concentrates in his own person (as to the principles of iniquity) the opposition that is made against God. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It will be noticed that the character of the wicked one is religious here, or rather anti-religious. The apostle does not speak of a secular power of the world, whatever its iniquity may be. The man of sin assumes a religious character. He exalts himself against the true God, but he shews himself as God [See Footnote #3] in the temple of God. Observe here that the sphere is on earth. It is not a god for faith. He shews himself as a god for the earth. The profession of Christianity has been abandoned. Sin then characterises an individual, a man, who fills up the measure of the apostacy of human nature, and, as a man, proclaims his independence of God. The principle of sin in man is his own will. He arises, as we have already seen, out of the rejection of Christianity. In this respect also evil is at its height. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This man of sin exalts himself above God, and, sitting as God in the temple of God, he defies the God of Israel. This last feature gives his formal character. He is in conflict with God, as placing himself publicly in this position-shewing himself as God in the temple of God. It is the God of Israel who will take vengeance on him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christianity, Judaism, natural religion, all are rejected. Man takes a place there on earth, exalting himself above it all, in opposition to God; and, in particular, arrogating to himself (for man needs a God, needs something to worship) the place and the honours of God, and of the God of Israel. [See Footnote #4] These verses present the wicked one in connection with the state of man, and with the different relationships in which man has stood towards God. In them all he shews himself as apostate, and then he assumes the place of God Himself-the first object of human ambition, as its attainment was the first suggestion of Satan. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In that which follows, we see not the condition itself of apostacy with regard to the different positions in which God had placed man, but simply man unrestrained, and the work of Satan. The man is but the vessel of the enemy's power. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Man in whom is the fullness of the Godhead, the Lord Jesus, and man filled with the energy of Satan, are opposed to each other. Before, it was man forsaking God, wicked, and exalting himself. Here, it is opposition against God on the part of man, unrestrained, and inspired by Satan himself. Consequently we have (not the wicked one, but) the lawless -the unbridled-one. The principle is the same, for sin is lawlessness. (See 1 John 3:4-Greek.) But in this first case man is viewed in his departure from God, and in his guiltiness; in the second, as acknowledging none but himself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To this condition in which all restraint will be removed, a barrier has yet existed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The apostle had already told them of the apostacy, and of the manifestation of the man of sin. He now says that the Thessalonians ought to know the hindrance that existed to his progress and his manifestation before the appointed time. He does not say that he had told them, but they ought to know it. Knowing the character of the wicked one, the barrier revealed itself. The main point here is that it was a barrier. The principle of the evil was already at work: a barrier alone prevented its development. Its character when developed, would be unbridled will which exalts and opposes itself.[See Footnote #5] Unbridled self-will being the principle of the evil, that which bridles this will is the barrier. Now it exalts itself above all that bears the name of God, or to which homage is paid: that which hinders it therefore is the power of God acting in government here below as authorized by Him. The grossest abuse of power still bears this last character. Christ could say to Pilate, "Thou couldest have no power against me, except it were given thee from above." Wicked as he might be, his power is owned as coming from God. Thus, although men had rejected and crucified the Son of God, so that their iniquity appeared to be at its height, the hindrance still existed in full. Afterwards God, having sent His Spirit, gathers out the church, and, although the mystery of iniquity began immediately to work mingling the will of men with the worship of God in Spirit, God had always (He still has) the object of His loving care upon the earth. The Holy Ghost was here below; the assembly, be its condition what it might, was still on earth, and God maintained the barrier. And as the porter had opened the door to Jesus in spite of all obstacles, so He sustains everything, however great the energy and progress of evil. The evil is bridled: God is the source of authority on earth. There is one who hinders until he be taken out of the way. Now when the assembly (the assembly, that is, as composed of the true members of Christ) is gone, and consequently the Holy Ghost as the Comforter is no longer dwelling here below, then the apostacy takes place, [See Footnote #6] the time to remove the hindrance is come, the evil is unbridled, and at length (without saying how much time it will take) the evil assumes a definite shape in him who is its head. The beast comes up from the abyss. Satan -not God-gives him his authority; and in the second beast all the energy of Satan is present. The man of sin is there. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here it is an outward and secular power that is spoken of, but the religious side of Satan's energy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With regard to the individual instruments who compose the barrier, they may change every moment, and it was not the object of the Holy Ghost to name them. He who was the one of them that existed when this epistle was written would not be so at the present time; to have named him then would have been of no use to us in the present day. The object was to declare that the evil which should be judged was already working, that there was no remedy for it, that it was only a hindrance on God's part which prevented its full development: a principle of the highest importance with regard to the history of Christianity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever form it might take, the apostacy of the men who would renounce grace would necessarily be more absolute than any other. It is opposition to the Lord. It has the character of an adversary. The other principle of human iniquity enters into it, but this is the source of the "perdition." It is, the rejection of goodness; it is direct enmity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;" That which hinders" is in general only an instrument, a means, which prevents the manifestation of the man of sin-the wicked one. So long as the assembly is on earth, the pretension to be God in His temple cannot take place or at least would have no influence. Satan has his sphere, and must needs have it, in the mystery of iniquity; but there is no longer a mystery when the place of God in His temple is openly taken. That which hinders is therefore still present. But there is a person active in maintaining this hindrance. Here I think indeed that it is God in the Person of the Holy Ghost, who, during the time called "the things that are," restrains the evil and guards divine authority in the world. As long as that subsists, the unrestrained exaltation of wickedness cannot take place. Consequently I do not doubt but that the rapture of the saints is the occasion of the hindrance being removed and all restraint loosed, although some of the ways of God are developed before the full manifestation of the evil. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This thought does not rest upon great principles only: the passage itself supplies elements which shew the state of things when the power of evil develops itself. 1st, The apostacy has already taken place. This could hardly be said if the testimony of the assembly still subsisted, as it had in time past, or even yet more distinctly as being freed from all false and corrupting elements. 2nd, Authority-as established of God, so far as exercising a restraint on man's will in God's name-has disappeared from the scene, for the wicked one exalts himself against all that is called God and to which homage is paid, and presents himself as God in the temple of God. Compare Psalms 82, where God stands among the gods (the judges) to judge them before He inherits the nations. Before that solemn hour when God will judge the judges of the earth, this wicked one, despising all authority that comes from Him, sets himself up as God: and that on the earth, where the judgment will be manifested. And then, 3rdly, in place of the Holy Ghost and His power manifested on the earth, we find the power of Satan, and with precisely the same tokens that bore witness to the Person of Christ. So that the passage itself, whether as to man or as to the enemy, gives us (in the three points of which we have spoken) the full confirmation of that which we have ventured to set forth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The assembly, the powers ordained by God upon the earth, the Holy Ghost present here as the Comforter in lieu of Christ, have all (as regards the manifestation of the government and the work of God) given place to the self-willed unbridled man, and to the power of the enemy. In saying this we speak of the sphere of this prophecy, which moreover embraces that of the public testimony of God on earth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Definitively then we have man here in his own nature-as it has displayed itself by forsaking God- in the full pursuit of his own will in rebellion against God; the willful man, developed as the result of apostacy from the position of grace in which the assembly stood, and in contempt of all the governmental authority of God on the earth. And since that authority had shewn itself directly and properly in Judea, this contempt and the spirit of rebellion in man, who exalts himself above everything, but who cannot be heavenly (heaven, and all pretension to heaven, is given up by man, and lost by Satan), display themselves by man taking the place of God in His temple under the most advanced form of Jewish apostacy and blasphemy. At the same time Satan acts-God having loosed his bridle-with a power (a lying power indeed, but) which gives the same testimony before men as that which the works of Christ did to the Saviour; and also with all the skill that iniquity possesses to deceive. It is in the wicked, the lawless one, that Satan works these things. Our consideration of the development of the latter part of this solemn scene will come (God willing) in the Book of Revelation. We may add, that there we have this wicked one as the false Messiah, and as prophet, in the form of his kingdom-two horns like a lamb. He had been cast down from heaven where he had been anti-priest, and now takes up Christ's titles on earth of king and prophet. In Daniel 11 he is seen as king; here, as the unbridled man, and in particular as the result of the apostacy[See Footnote #7] and the manifestation of Satan's power. In a word, instead of the assembly, the apostacy; instead of the Holy Ghost, Satan; and, instead of the authority of God as a restraint upon evil, the unbridled man setting himself up as God on the earth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another circumstance, already mentioned, demands particular attention. I have said that he presents himself as the Messiah (that is to say, in His two characters as king and prophet, which are His earthly characters). In heaven Satan has then nothing more to do; he has been cast out from thence, so that there is no imitation of the Lord's high-priesthood. In that respect Satan had, in his own person, acted another part. He was previously in heaven the accuser of the brethren. But, at the time of which we are speaking, the assembly is on high, and the accuser of the brethren is cast out never to return there. In a man inspired by him he makes himself prophet and king. And in this character he does the same things (in falsehood) as those by which God had sanctioned the mission of Christ before men. (Compare Acts 2:22) In a Greek the words are identical. [See Footnote #8] I would also recall here another solemn fact in order to complete this picture. In the history of Elijah we find that the proof of the divinity of Baal, or that of Jehovah, is made to rest upon the fact of their respective servants bringing down fire from heaven. Now in Revelation 3 we learn that the second beast brings down fire from heaven in the sight of men. So that we find here the marvelous works that sanctioned the Lord's mission, and there that which proved Jehovah to be the true and only God. And Satan performs both in order to deceive men. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This may give us an idea of the state in which they will be; and it indicates also that these things will take place in relation with the Jews, under the double aspect of their connection with Jehovah and their rejection of Christ and reception of Antichrist. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, thank God, the truth is abundantly confirmed, that these things do not relate to the assembly, but to those who, having had opportunity to profit by the truth, have rejected it, and loved iniquity. Neither does it relate to the heathen, but only to those among whom the truth has been set forth.[See Footnote #9] They refused it and God sends a lie, and an efficacious lie, that they may believe it. He does this in judgment: He did the same thing with the nations (Romans 1:24, 26, 28); He did it also with the Jews (Is. 6:9, 10); He does it here with nominal Christians. But it does relate to the Jews as a nation that rejected the truth-the testimony of the Holy Ghost (Acts 7)-but still more to Christians (in name); in short to all those who will have had the truth presented to them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With nominal Christians this has necessarily the character of apostacy, or at least it is connected with this apostacy, and is consequent upon it; as verse 3 teaches us, the apostacy takes place, and then the man of sin is revealed.~ &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In connection with his character of the man of sin he presents himself without restraint in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.[See Footnote #10] In relation to the lying power of Satan and his efficient work, he presents himself in the character of Christ-he is the Antichrist, assuming consequently a Jewish character. It is not only the pride of man exalting itself against God, but the power of Satan in man deceiving men and the Jews in particular, by a false Christ; so that it it were possible, the very elect would be deceived. We may remark that all these characters are precisely the opposite of Christ-falsehood instead of truth, iniquity instead of righteousness, perdition instead of salvation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is to a power like this, of lies and destruction that man-having forsaken Christianity and exalted himself in pride against God-will be given up. The apostacy (that is to say, the renunciation of Christianity) will be the occasion of this evil; Judea and the Jews, the scene in which it ripens and develops itself in a positive way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Antichrist will deny the Father and the Son (that is, Christianity); he will deny that Jesus is the Christ (that is, Jewish unbelief). With the burden upon him of sin against Christianity, grace, and the presence of the Holy Ghost, he will ally himself with Jewish unbelief, in order that there may be not only the full expression of human pride, but also for a time the Satanic influence of a false Christ, who will strengthen the throne of Satan among the Gentiles occupied by the first beast to whom the authority of the dragon has been given. He will also set up his own subordinate throne over the Jews, as being the Messiah, whom their unbelief is expecting; while at the same time he will bring in idolatry, the unclean spirit long gone out who then returns to his house which is devoid of God. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now, with regard to his destruction (whom the Lord Jesus will consume with the spirit of His mouth and destroy with the manifestation of His presence, or of His coming), the first of these means characterises the judgment; it is the word of truth applied in judgment according to the power of God. In the Revelation, it says that the sword proceeds out of His mouth. Here He is not spoken of in the character of a man of war, as in Revelation 19. The spirit of His mouth is that inward and divine power which kindles and executes the judgment. It is not an instrument, it is the divine source of power which executes its purpose by a word. (compare Isa.33:33) But there is another aspect of this judgment. The Lord, the man Jesus, will return. His return has two parts-the return into the air to take His assembly to Himself, and the public manifestation in glory of His return. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the first verse of our chapter we have read of His return and our gathering together unto Him. Here, verse 8, is the manifestation of His presence publicly in creation. At the time of this public manifestation of His coming He destroys the whole work and power of the wicked one. It is the Man formerly obedient and humbling Himself on the earth, exalted of God, and become Lord of all, who destroys the lawless man that has exalted himself above everything and made himself as God, instead of being, obedient to God. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This evil- on the side of Satan's influence-was already working in the apostle's time; only it was bridled and kept back, until that which restrained it should no longer be on the scene. Then should the wicked one be revealed. To sum up, the taking away of the assembly, and the apostacy, were first necessary; and then this man should present himself as an unbelieving Jew, [See Footnote #11] and the power of Satan would be displayed in him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now this Satanic influence was for those who had rejected the truth. Of the Thessalonians -to whom he had given these explanations respecting the day which they fancied was come-the apostle thought very differently. God had chosen these "brethren beloved of the Lord " from the beginning for salvation, through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth, to which He had called them by Paul's gospel (and that of His companions), and to the obtaining of the glory of the Lord Jesus. How different was this from the visitations of the day of the Lord, and the circumstances of which the apostle had spoken! They were numbered among those who should be the companions in that day of the Lord Jesus Himself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Footnotes for 2 Thessalonians 2&lt;br /&gt;3: "As God" is to be left out before "sitteth," in chapter 2:4. &lt;br /&gt;4: In 1 John 2 we find the double character of the Antichrist as regards Christianity and Judaism. He denies the Father and the Son, rejects Christianity; he denies that Jesus is the Christ, which is Jewish unbelief. His power is the working of Satan, as we find here. As man he sets up to be God. So that his impiousness is manifested in every way. As the question is more upon the earth, it is the God of the earth, the man withal from heaven, who judges him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5: Note this point. All was ready and complete in the apostle's time, only restrained. So Christ was ready to judge. Only the patience of God waits, in the accepted time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6: The principle of this may be widely at work individually, as in 1 John 2, it had begun, but the open public manifestation was to come. Jude gives the creeping in to produce corruption John, the going out which characterises the Antichrist. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7: We may remark that the apostacy develops itself under the three forms in which man has been in relationship with God; Nature-it is the man of sin unrestrained, who exalts himself; Judaism-he sits as God in the temple of God; Christianity-it is to this that the term apostacy is directly applied in the passage before us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8: Only the word for "miracle" or "power" is plural in Acts 2. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9: I only allude here to the connection between the renunciation of Christianity and the development of apostate Judaism, which are linked together in the rejection of the true Christ, and the denial of the Father and the Son-features given in 1 John as characteristic of the Antichrist. But I am persuaded that the more we examine the word, the more we shall see (perhaps with surprise) that this fact is confirmed. Moreover the turning back to Judaism, and the tendency to idolatry by the introduction of other mediators and patrons, and the losing sight of our union with the Head, and thus of the perfection and deliverance from the law which are ours in Christ, have, at all times, characterised the mystery of iniquity and the principle of apostacy. The apostle had incessantly to combat this. That of which we spoke above is but its full manifestation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10: This is the culminating point in his character as an apostate who has renounced grace. The ninth and following verses develop his positive and deceitful activity by which he seeks to win men. This explains the mixture (which, moreover, generally resists) of atheism in will, and superstition &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11: I do not say that his first appearance will be the apostacy of Judaism; I do not think it will be. He will present himself to them as being the Christ, but according to the hopes and passions of the Jews. But afterwards it will be an apostacy even from Judaism, as had partially been the case in the days of the Maccabees-a fact which the Spirit uses in Daniel 11, as a figure precursive of the time of Antichrist. He is from his first appearance an unbeliever and the enemy of God, an apostate as to the assembly, and denying that Jesus is the Christ. We are taught positively by John, that the rejection of Christianity and Jewish unbelief are united in the Antichrist. It appears that apostacy with regard to Christianity and Jewish unbelief are connected and go together; and afterwards Jewish apostacy and open rebellion against God, which, causing the cry of the remnant, brings in the Lord, and all is ended. Now the apostle (chap. 2: 3, 4) presents the complete picture of man's iniquity, developed when apostacy from the grace of the gospel had taken place (he exalts himself even to the making himself God), without touching the Jewish side or the manifested power of Satan. These verses shew us the man of sin is the result of the apostacy which will break out in the midst of Christendom. Verse 9 begins to teach us in addition, that the coming of this wicked one is also in immediate connection with a mighty display of the energy of Satan, who deceives by means of marvelous works and a strong delusion to which God gives men up, and of which we have spoken in the text. It is man and Satan here, with enough to shew its connection with Judaism in the last days (even as the mystery of iniquity was linked with Judaism in the days of the apostles, although it is not the occasion of giving the details of the Jewish development of the evil. We must look for these details elsewhere, where they are in their place, as in Daniel. The Apocalypse and 1 John furnish us with the means of connecting them: we do but allude here to this connection. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Synopsis of the Books of the Bible&lt;/em&gt; vol.5&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115807966131309698?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115807966131309698/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115807966131309698' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115807966131309698'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115807966131309698'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/09/jn-darby-on-2-thessalonians-2.html' title='J.N. Darby on 2 Thessalonians 2'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115783084293054540</id><published>2006-09-09T12:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T08:35:11.096-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Responsibility for the State of the Church</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"But we have no need to insist on this scriptural notion of the unity of the whole system from its beginning to its end. The question is very simple and of the greatest solemnity. Is the church responsible for the state in which it is found, or can it say, like Jeremiah 31:29: 'The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge'? An infidel, speaking of himself, may say: If I have inherited the bad condition of Adam, it is no fault of mine: I suffer from it, but I am not responsible for it. God, in the government of the worl and of His people, does not judge thus; He treats man as responsible, and He acts towards His people, as considering them to be responsible for the state in which they are found. They have been themselves in the evil; they are partakers in it. His grace may deliver one individual or another from the eternal consequences of sin, but those consequences are none the less certain for the human race. Grace may deliver children of God from the order of things which is going to be judged, so that they be gathered into the barn at the time of harvest (Matt 13:30); but they are taken away from the coming judgment, because the church is responsible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church is in a state of ruin; it has ceased to bear testimony to the glory of Christ, as it ought to have done, and as it did indeed at the beginning. When I come to the discovery of this sad and overwhelming truth, I feel my responsibility; and I think it is enougth to put the qustion thus, in order to reach the conscience of those whose ear is open to the voice of the Holy Spirit, and who have at heart the glory of Christ. To abide faithful, under the conviction, is the means of being able to enjoy a safe shelter in Him who keeps His own for glory, whatever be withal the circumstances in which they may be found. Nevertheless, this will not prevent God from manifesting that He has looked upon this dispensation as being responsible, when He will put an end to it by judgment. And if God has given a testimony as to this (and He has done so), does not the responsibility already lie on us? Here it is that Romans 11 finds an important application.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are we responsible, and are we to be judged as such, if after having been warned we are walking in that which the Lord is going to judge? The solution of this question must of necessity act upon those who entertain the hope of re-establishing the church; for they deny at the very same time both its unity and its responsibility, in order to satisfy those few small bodies they have formed. Hence these two questions are very closely connected, and I attach importance to the question of the formation of churches, because it is linked with that of our common responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My desire is that we may indeed remember that we are responsible for the state in which we are found, and not for the acts of the Christians before us, although these acts may have helped in bringing on that state of things. The church as a body has been placed on earth to glorify the Son of God. Alas! it must be owned with confusion of face, that the church does not glorify Him now. The word of God shews us that there is a solidarity or rather an accumulation of responsibility, and that we inherit the sin of those who have gone before us in a corse of departure from God, when it is a question of His government with respect to a dispensation. 'Thy first father hath sinned,' says Isaiah (Isa. 43:27). 'Yeah, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch,' says Stephen (Acts 7:43), alluding to the sin of Israel in the wilderness, 'and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.' The Jews undergo to this day the consequences of the sin which they committed in the wilderness, of all those which they have sice added thereto, and the measure of which they have filled up by putting to death the Lord Jesus."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Remarks on the State of the Church&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings of J.N. Darby&lt;/em&gt;, volume 1, p.237-238&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: J.N. Darby, church, ecclesiology, Plymouth Brethren, Exclusive, Exclusivism, Ruin of the Church, apostasy, dispensation, Dispensationalism&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115783084293054540?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115783084293054540/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115783084293054540' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115783084293054540'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115783084293054540'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/09/jn-darby-on-responsibility-for-state.html' title='J.N. Darby on Responsibility for the State of the Church'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115721861426884026</id><published>2006-09-02T10:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.823-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Character of Ministry</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"What a source of ministry is now opened to us! The love of God in Christ towards poor sinners, but this love, fulfilled in the glory which was consequent upon the death of the Son of man, who had descended into the lowest depths of man's misey, had there glorified God, and was now Himself glorified as man. In what a position is ministry thus placed! It is, indeed, the ministry of the Spirit and of righteousness; for if the love of God be the source and the subject of it, the righteousness of God accomplished in the glorifying of the Son of Man who had glorified Him upon earth, and who had more than re-established all that glory of God (which was falsified, and in appearance, belied by the victory of Satan, and the ruin introduced into God's creation), this righteousness becomes also its foundation. And because of this glorification of Christ in power, there was also healings and miracles attached to this ministry- at least, it is one reason for them, for miracles were likewise a confirmation of the most important part of it, namely, the life-giving word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But they were also a testimony to the victory of the Son of man over Satan, and to His right of blessing over creation, notwithstanding all the evil which is there discovered. A time was to come when all this evil would be removed; but that period was not yet arrived. Nevertheless, He, who was to accomplish it, was exalted, and was manifesting, in the midst of the evil, this power in man. Thus, the prince of this world, he who was the mover of the evil found therein, was shewn to be judged; and this is why miracles were also called the powers or miracles of the world to come (Heb. 6:5); because then all this evil will be subjugated and arrested by the presence of the Son of man; and the miracles were a sample of this blessed result, a sample wrought by the Holy Spirit come down from on high. In this respect, it is indeed but a poor exhibition of the glory of the Son of man that we present before the world. May we, at least, have the wisdom to acknowledge and confess it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But these things were, it is true, only accessory. The principal thing was the testimony borne to the &lt;em&gt;love&lt;/em&gt; of God, to the victory of the second Adam, and to the work which He had accomplished as man- a testimony borne by the word, by that word which had created, which sustains, which quickens unto eternal life, which nourishes the renewed soul, and which reveals all the glory of God- the word, of which Jesus is the living fulness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Considered as ministry of the word, the ministry which manifested the presence of the Holy Spirit, manifested at the same time the sovereignty of God, the miraculous power of Him who was sent, and the extent and activity of grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This ministry was carried on, whether among the Jews, or, as in the case of Cornelius, among the Gentiles, by the gift of tongues: Galileans, Romans, speak all kinds of languages. Man becomes only an instrument in the hand of God- of the Holy Ghost sent down from on high. He it is who guides, rules, and acts: but He does this in order to convey the testimony of the glory of the Son of man to all men; and in order, while speaking to them of the wonderful works of God in the languages in which they were born, to draw their hearts by a grace which had come even unto them, toward the power there manifested; and, at the same time, to assert the rights of the last Adam in grace over all men. This, while commencing with the Jews, evidently addressed itself to the entire economy of the Gentiles. The judgment of God had seperated the nations by confounding their languages, so that they were reckoned by languages, families and nations (Gen.10 and 11); and in thus seperating them, He had established the bounds of the people, according to the number of the children of Israel, Deut.32:8. The time for putting an end to all this had not yet arrived; but the &lt;em&gt;grace&lt;/em&gt; is brought in, and takes the rule, in this state of things, among the Jews, who were, after all, the most wicked of all the nations. A testimony appears, which uses the very fruit of sin to shew that grace was reaching men just where the Holy Ghost enables Jews to speak all languages, by which men and the hearts of men were divided in consequence of the judgment of God against the pride of the renewed earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The subject of this ministry, although the circumstances which accompanied its exercise might manifest to an instructed eye the sovereignty of God, the rights of the Son of man over the nations, as well as His grace towards the Jews who had rejected Him- the subject of this ministry was, at the commencement, solely the glory of the man Jesus raised from the dead- a glory, which was to be the centre and rallying-point of souls saved by the operation of grace, and formed into the body, the church- a church which thenceforward was to be instructed and governed by this same Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jerusalem, which had been for so long a time the beloved city, not having submitted itself to this testimony to the glory of Christ, lost the glory of being any longer the centre and fruitful source of evangelical administration. Her citizens had sent a message after the King who had gone to receive His kingdom, saying they would not have Him to reign over them. And, upon the death of Stephen, the whole church is dispersed, "except the apostles." Thereupon, God, who ever finds in evil the opportunity of displaying some grace more glorious than that which had been defaced, raises up, independently of the work at Jerusalem, an apostle born out of due time, who was neither "of man nor by man"; and reveals at the same time, this unspeakably precious truth, of which this apostle, thus called, becomes the great witness, that the church is one with Christ glorified in heaven- that she is His body, which He nourisheth and cherisheth as His own flesh. Thus disappeared that which Peter had announced to the Jews, namely that Christ would return to them in grace, as to a people subsisting before Him. And thenceforward, we have to do with the hopes which are identified with Christ in the heavens, with the marriage supper of the Lamb, with the union of the Bride and Bridegroom in heaven. The return of Christ here below entirely in judgment- although for the deliverance of the remnant. This is a point of progress in the ministry and administration of the church, of which the results are very perceptible to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consequent upon the full revelation of the union of Christ and the church, we find, in the writings of the apostle Paul, a much greater development of those gifts of the Holy Spirit- in connection with the position of him who, as a member of 'the body of Christ', might posess this or that gift. The same principles, however, are found practically set forth in the writings of Peter."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;On Ministry&lt;/em&gt;, in Collected Writings of J.N. Darby Vol.1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key words: J.N. Darby, church, ecclesiology, Plymouth Brethren, dispensational, dispensation, Holy Spirit&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115721861426884026?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115721861426884026/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115721861426884026' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115721861426884026'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115721861426884026'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/09/jn-darby-on-character-of-ministry.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Character of Ministry'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115477887284268782</id><published>2006-08-05T04:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-08-05T04:54:32.856-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Obadiah</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Edom's perpetual hatred to Jehovah's people:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;the inveterate enemy of Jerusalem&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edom is frequently spoken of in the prophets. This people, who, as well as Jacob, were descended from Isaac, had an inveterate hatred to the posterity of the younger son who were favoured as the people of Jehovah. Psalm 137 tells of this hatred in the seventh verse. In Psalm 83 Edom forms a part of the last confederacy against Jerusalem, the object of which was to cut off the name of Israel from the earth. Ezekiel 35 dwells upon this perpetual hatred, shewn from the first in the refusal to give them a passage through the land, and upon the desire of Edom to possess the land of Israel. Our prophet enlarges upon the details of the manifestation of this hatred, which burst forth when Jerusalem was taken. It is possible that there was something of this sort when Jerusalem was taken by Nebuchadnezzar. Edom is united with Babylon in Psalm 137 as the inveterate enemy of Jerusalem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Their future attitude and complete destruction: the armies of the nations to be assembled in Edom's land&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it is evident that the prophecy extends to other events. Jerusalem shall again be attacked by these Gentiles, who seek to satiate their hatred to the city of Jehovah, and to gratify their ambitious purposes. Edom plays a sorrowful part on this occasion, and its judgment is proportioned to its sin. The nation is entirely cut off. When the rest of the world rejoice, the desolation of Edom shall be complete. Edom had purposed to take advantage of the attack of the nations upon Jerusalem, to possess itself of the land, and had united with them to take part in the attack, by lying in wait -- as was natural to a people whose habits were those of the Arab tribes -- to cut off the retreat of the fugitives, laying hands, when possible, on their substance, and giving them up also to their enemies. The men of Edom knew not that the day of Jehovah was upon all the nations, and that this conduct would but bring down an especial curse on their own heads. Their judgment is thus described: God takes away their wisdom, their pride deceives them, their strength fails them, in order that they may be entirely cut off. We have seen them joining the last confederacy against Jerusalem, and taking part in the destruction of that city. But it appears that their confederates deceive them (v. 7); and Edom, thus ill-treated by former allies, become "small among the heathen" (v. 1, 2). The nations are the first instruments of Jehovah's vengeance. But another and yet more terrible event is linked with the name of Edom, or Idumea, and is the occasion of Jehovah's judgment falling upon that people. It is in Edom that the armies of the nations will be assembled in the last days. We have the account of this in Isaiah 34 and 63. See Isaiah 34: 5, 6, the rest of the chapter displaying the judgment of desolation in the strongest possible language. Isaiah 63 shews us Jehovah Himself returning from the judgment, having trodden the winepress alone. Of the peoples there were none with Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Edom's judgment reserved for Israel as Jehovah's instrument&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, Israel itself shall be an instrument in the hand of Jehovah for the judgment of Esau (Obad. 18). The destruction in Isaiah relates especially to the armies of the nations, which, in their movements, find themselves assembled in Edom. The part which Israel takes in the judgment is on the people in general; and, I suppose, afterwards, when Christ is at their head as the Messiah (compare v. 17, 18); and Isaiah 11: 14 appears to confirm this view of the passage. At all events it takes place after Israel's blessing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Complete destruction predicted by other prophets&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That none shall be left of Edom is also declared in Obadiah 5, 6, 9, 18; Jeremiah 49: 9, 10-22; and it will be observed that there is no restoration of a remnant, as in the case of Elam and others (Jer. 49: 39). A part of the latter prophecy establishes the same facts as that of Obadiah, in nearly the same words. The same judgment is pronounced in Ezekiel 35, and in Isaiah 34, already quoted. We see in these chapters, as well as in Isaiah 63, that it is the controversy of Jerusalem, that Jehovah pleads with Edom (Ezek. 35: 12; Isaiah 34: 8; 63: 4). In these passages Jehovah does not forget His thoughts of love towards Zion and His people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The effect of God's call to repentance, of His unchangeable faithfulness and unwearying love: deliverance upon Mount Zion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He closes the prophecy of Obadiah with the testimony of the effect of His call to repentance, of His unchangeable faithfulness to His promises and unwearying love. Power and might against those formidable enemies should be given to Israel, who should in peace possess the territory which their enemies had invaded. Deliverance should be on Mount Zion; from thence Mount Esau should be judged, and the kingdom should be Jehovah's. As corrupt power had been judged in Babylon, so in Edom hatred to the people of God.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115477887284268782?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115477887284268782/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115477887284268782' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115477887284268782'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115477887284268782'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/08/jn-darby-on-obadiah.html' title='J.N. Darby on Obadiah'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115472050251160426</id><published>2006-08-04T12:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T12:41:42.660-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/08/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115472050251160426?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/08/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115472050251160426/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115472050251160426' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115472050251160426'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115472050251160426'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/08/shoes-off-at-door-please-this-weeks.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115471822730194227</id><published>2006-08-04T12:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T12:03:47.876-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Difference Between the Levitical Priesthood and the Ministry of the Gospel</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The existence of ministry is consequent on the nature of the present dispensation; and, in saying this, we ascend very high to discover its source; for the nature of this dispensation is nothing less than the sovereign grace of God, the activity of His love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The position and the character which distinguish the servants of God, are always, and necessarily, in unison with the priciples of the relation which exists between God and men. When God only recognised certain families, the head of the family was its priest and prophet. We find examples of this in Abraham, Noah, and the other patriarchs. But this principle acquires a more general and important application, when a whole dispensation is in question; as in the case of Judaism and Christianity. The ways of God, and the principlers of His dealings with sinners, are here unfolded with many more details for the conscience, and more distinctness and splendour as to the accomplishment and the revelation of grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Observe, accordingly, the marked distinction between these two dispensations. In Judaism, under mount Sinai, where the law was given and those ordinances established which regulated the intercourse between the people and God, we have a people already formed and recognised as such before God; a people whom God had already brought to Himself (Exod.19); whose existence and whose rights depended on their being the children of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob, and who, with few exceptions, were perpetuated by natural descent. In a word, they already existed as a people, when God entered into the covenant relationship with them; for it pleased God to try if man, so privileged and put in posession of every possible advantage for the maintenance of his position, could stand before Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The work and principle of Christianity are altogether different. Christianity supposes that the trial, to which God has subjected him by means of the law, has only served to prove more plainly how impossible it is for man, whatever his advantages and privileges to stand before Him. But this having been proved, Christianity presents to us God in His grace, visiting this ruined race. He beholds the Gentiles sunk in ignorance and idolatry, and degraded by the most revolting crimes; He finds the Jews still more culpable, having been unfaithful to higher privileges; and He exhibits both Jew and Gentile as the terrible proof that human nature is fallen and corrupt, and that in the flesh good does not dwell. In Christianity God sees man wicked, miserable, rebellious, lost; but He sees him according to His infinite compassions; He only notices the wretchedness of man to bear witness to him of His own pity. He beholds and comes to call men by Jesus; that they may enjoy in Him, and through Him, deliverance and salvation, with His favour and His blessing!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The consequence of the Jewish nation was very simple: a law, to direct the conduct of a people already existing as such before God; and a priesthood, to maintain the relations which existed between the people and their God- relations which were not of a character to enable them to draw nigh to Him without meditation. The question was not, how to seek and call those without; but to order the intercorse with God of a people already recognised as such.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As we have already seen, Christianity has an entirely different character. It considers mankind as universally lost, proves them in reality to be so, and seeks, through the power of a new life, worshippers in spirit and in truth. In like manner does it introduce the worshippers themselves into the presence of God, who there reveals Himself as their Father- a Father who has sought and saved them. And this is done, not by means of an intermediate priestly class who represent the worshippers because of the inability of the latter to approach a terrible and imperfectly known God; but it introduces them in full ocnfidence to a God known and loved, because He loved them, sought, and washed them from all their sins, that they might be before Him without fear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The consequence of this marked difference between the relations in which Jews and Christians stand as towards God is, that the Jews had a priesthood (and not a ministry) which acted outwards, that is, outside the people; while Christianity has a ministry which finds its exercise in the active revelation of what God is- whether within the church or without- there being no intermediate priesthood between God and His people, save the Great High Priest Himself. The Christian priesthood is composed of all true Christians, who equally enjoy the right of entering into the holy places by the new and living way which has been consecrated for them- a priesthood, moreover, whose relations are essentially heavenly. Ministry, then, is essential to Christianity; which is the activity of the love of God in delivering souls from ruin and from sin, and in drawing them to Himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On earth, then, as regards the relations between God and man, a priesthood was the distinguishing characteristic of the Jewish dispensation; ministry of the Christian: because priesthood maintained the Jews in their relations with God; and because by ministry Christianity seeks in this world worshippers of the Father. I say on earth, for, in truth, when we consider the portion of the Christian in its highest point if view, namely in that which has relation to heaven, Christianity has its 'kings and priests'- that is to say, all saints. The worship of God is not ministry; it is the expression of the heart of the children before their Father in heaven, and of priests before their God; in the intimacy of the presence of Him who in His own love, has rent the veil, which His justice had opposed to the sinner; and has rent it by a stroke which has disarmed justice, and left her nothing but the happy task of clothing with the best robe those to whom before all entrance had been denied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To suppose, then, the necessity of a priestly order is to deny the efficacy of the work of Christ, which has procured for us the privilege of our presenting ourselves before God; it is in fact, though not in words, to deny Christianity, in its application to the conscience, and to the justication of the sinner; it is to overthrow all those relations which God has established that He might glorify Himself and place man in peace and blessedness. On the other hand, God acting in Christianity according to the active energy of His love towards sinners, Christian ministry becomes the expression of this activity. It has its source in the power of this love; whether it be in calling souls, or in nourishing those who are called and whom Jesus loves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is thus presented to us by Paul, as one of those things which characterise the gospel of the grace of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;On Ministry&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt;, vol.1, p.206-209&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115471822730194227?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115471822730194227/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115471822730194227' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115471822730194227'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115471822730194227'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/08/jn-darby-on-difference-between.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Difference Between the Levitical Priesthood and the Ministry of the Gospel'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115470813033635961</id><published>2006-08-04T09:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T09:15:30.336-07:00</updated><title type='text'>William Kelly on the Antichrist</title><content type='html'>William Kelly wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Nor will this be all; there is another step- that the man of sin will be revealed. For just as God had a man of righteousness in the Lord Jesus Christ, so Satan will have a man of sin. Thus there is, first the systematic abandonment, not perhaps of Christian forms, but of revealed and professed Christian truth: then will arrive a personal expression of man's will without God who puts himself at the head of it. There will not be wanting a man to lead the evil when the right moment comes. This is the true meaning and place of the man of sin; the Holy Spirit furnishes here a picture of him spiritually considered. If you want to see him politically, you must look at Daniel xi. 36, where the king that does according to his own will is the self-same personage here described religiously, if one may so speak of Antichrist. Daniel naturally treats the king in connection with the Jews, with the land of Palestine, which is clearly to be his habitat, and with the kings of the north and south and their conflicts. The apostle looks at the same person in connection with corrupted Christendom giving up the truth; and accordingly his description is of this sort: he 'opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.'"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;The Coming and the Day of the Lord&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Selected Pamphlets&lt;/em&gt;, p.423&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115470813033635961?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115470813033635961/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115470813033635961' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115470813033635961'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115470813033635961'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/08/william-kelly-on-antichrist.html' title='William Kelly on the Antichrist'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115470797098762037</id><published>2006-08-04T09:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-08-04T09:12:51.006-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Philemon</title><content type='html'>J.N. Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The very beautiful and interesting Epistle to Philemon does not require much comment; it is an expression of the love which works by the Spirit within the assembly of God in all the circumstances of individual life. Written for the purpose of awakening in Philemon sentiments which certain events had a tendency to extinguish in his heart, this epistle is suited to produce those feelings in the reader more than to be the object of explanation. It is a fine picture of the way in which the tenderness and the strength of the love of God, working in the heart, occupies itself with every detail wherein that love might be wounded, or that might be an occasion for its growth and manifestation. In this point of view the epistle is as important as beautiful; for this development of tender and delicate consideration in the midst of the apostle's gigantic labours, and of the immense truths that formed the basis of relationship between all creatures and God in Christ, gives a very peculiar character to Christianity and shews its divine nature; since He who reveals the most profound truths, and puts them in their right place in the circle of divine thought, does so as speaking of a known thing, as communicating His own thoughts; and can (being the Spirit of the God of love) fill the heart with considerations which love only can suggest, with a dignity which manifests their source, and with a delicacy of application which shews that, whatever be the grandeur of His thoughts, He is at liberty to consider everything. When the human mind is occupied with elevated subjects, it feels their weight, and bends under the load; it is absorbed; it has to abstract itself, to fix its attention. God reveals His own thoughts; and, vast as they may be to the human mind, they flow with the clearness and connectedness that is natural to them, when he communicates them by His chosen instruments. The latter are free to love; for the God who employs them and inspires them is love. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a more essential part of their task to present Him thus, than even to speak of the deep things. Accordingly, when they are moved by that love, the character of Him who sends them is demonstrated as that of the God who is the source of love, by a perfect consideration for others, and the most delicate attention to those things which their hearts would feel. Moreover this love develops itself in relationships formed by the Holy Ghost Himself, between the members of the body of Christ, that is to say, between men. Springing from a divine source, and always fed b y it, Christian affections assume the form of human regard, which by exhibiting love and the opposite of selfishness, bear the stamp of their origin. Love, free from self, can and does think of all that concerns others and understands what will affect them. Onesimus, a fugitive slave, had been converted by means of Paul in his bonds. Philemon, a rich man or at least one of easy fortune, received the assembly in his house (his wife also being converted). and in his measure laboured himself in the Lord's work. Archippus was a servant of the Lord, who ministered in the assembly, perhaps an evangelist; at any rate he took part in the conflicts of the gospel, and was thus associated with Philemon and the assembly. The apostle, in sending Onesimus back, addresses the whole assembly. This is the reason that we have here, "grace and peace" without the addition of "mercy" as when individuals only are addressed by the apostles. His appeal on behalf of Onesimus is to Philemon; but the whole assembly is to interest itself in this beloved slave, who was become a child of God. Their christian hearts would be a support and a guarantee for the conduct of Philemon; although the apostle expects pardon and kindness for Onesimus form the love of Philemon himself as a servant of God. Paul (as was his custom) recognizes all the good that was in Philemon, and uses it as a motive to Philemon himself, that he might let the feelings of grace flow out freely, in spite of anything that the return of Onesimus might excite in the flesh or any displeasure that Satan might try to re-awaken in him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The apostle would have that which he desired for Onesimus to be Philemon's own act. The enfranchisement of his former slave, or even his kind reception as a brother, would have quite a different bearing in that case, than if it had arisen from a command on the apostle's part; for christian affection and the bonds of love were in question. He gives due weight to the right he had to command, but only I order to abandon it, and to give more force to his request; and at the same time he suggests that the communion of Philemons' faith with the whole assembly of God and with the apostle?that is, the way in which his faith connected him, in the activities of christian love, with the assembly of God and those appointed by him to labour in it, and with the Lord Himself?which had already shewn itself so honourably in Philemon, would have its full development in the acknowledgment of tall the apostle's rights over his heart. In verse 6 we must read "every good thing which is in us." It is beautiful to see the mixture of affection for Onesimus? which shews itself in an anxiety that makes him plead every motive which could act on the heart of Philemon?with the christian feeling that inspired him with full confidence in the kindly affections of this faithful and excellent brother. The return of his fugitive slave was indeed likely to stir something in his natural heart; the apostle interposes his letter on behalf of his dear child in the faith, born in the time of his captivity. God had interposed the work of His grace, which ought to act on the heart of Philemon, producing altogether new relationships with Onesimus. The apostle beseeches him to receive his former slave as a brother, but it is evident (ver 12), although Paul wished it to be the spontaneous act of the master whom Onesimus had wronged, that the apostle expected the affranchisement of the latter. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Be that as it may, he takes everything upon himself for his dear son. According to grace Onesimus was more profitable to Philemon, as well as to Paul, than formerly, when the flesh had made him an unfaithful and valueless servant; and this he should rejoice in. (Ver 11) Paul alludes to the name of "Onesimus", which means "profitable." Finally he reminds Philemon that he was indebted to him for his own salvation?for his life as a Christian. Paul at this moment was a prisoner at Rome. God had brought Onesimus there (whither all resorted) to lead him to salvation and the knowledge of the Lord, in order that we should be instructed, and that Onesimus should have a new position in the christian assembly. [See Footnote #1] It was apparently towards the end of the apostle's imprisonment. He hopes at least soon to be released and tells Philemon to prepare him a lodging. We find the names again in the Epistle to the Colossians. There the apostle says, "Onesimus, who is one of you;" so that, if it be the same, he was of Colosse. It seems likely, because there is Archippus also, who is exhorted to take heed to his ministry. If it be so, the fact that he speaks thus of Onesimus to the Christians at Colosse is another proof of his loving care for this new convert. He lays him thus upon the hearts of the assembly, sending his letter by him and Tychicus. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Epistle to the Ephesians there are no salutations; but the same Tychicus is its bearer. Timothy is joined with Paul in the address of the Epistle to the Colossians, as well as in this to Philemon. It was not so in the Epistle to the Ephesians; but in that to the Philippians to whom the apostle hoped to send Timothy ere long, their two names are again united. I do not draw an conclusions from these last details; but they furnish ground for inquiry into details. Each of the four epistles was written during the apostle's captivity at Rome, and when he was expecting to be delivered form that captivity. Finally, that which we have especially to remark in the Epistle to Philemon is the love which, in the intimate centre of this circle (guarded all round by an unparalleled development of doctrine) reigned and bore fruit, and bound the members of Christ together, and spread the savour of grace over all the relationships in which men could stand towards each other, occupying itself about all the details of life with a perfect propriety, and with the recognition of every right that can exist among men and of all that the human heart can feel." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Footnotes for Philemon 1&lt;br /&gt;1: It seems to me, from the way in which the apostle speaks, that he even thought Onesimus would be an instrument of God in the assembly, useful in the Lord's served. He would have retained him to minister to himself in the bonds of the gospel; but he respects his connection with Philemon. It was also much better for the soul of Onesimus that he should submit himself where had done wrong; and if he was to be free, that he should receive his freedom from the love of Philemon.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115470797098762037?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115470797098762037/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115470797098762037' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115470797098762037'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115470797098762037'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/08/jn-darby-on-philemon.html' title='J.N. Darby on Philemon'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115401911671762442</id><published>2006-07-27T09:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-07-27T09:51:57.053-07:00</updated><title type='text'>This is a Cult. Want to Join?: What 3 Books would you Recommend?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://dyspraxicfundamentalist.blogspot.com/2006/07/what-3-books-would-you-recommend.html"&gt;This is a Cult. 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Want to Join?: What 3 Books would you Recommend?'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115316488879692929</id><published>2006-07-17T12:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:51:29.576-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Papal System</title><content type='html'>Anybody been missing Darby?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"What is the Papacy? Satan's fiction to answer all this (&lt;em&gt;the Church of Christ&lt;/em&gt;). While men are kept down in the lowest desires of a depraved world, in the bondage of the corrupt affections of a nature alienated from the gift of God, it presents a head on earth, earthly in his interests and in his objects, knitting together in a body, not a people separated out of the world to spiritual objects, but one tied by the closest interests to maintain his earthly supremacy, and with it their own importance upon earth, and in an earthly way; and by this universal and astonishing scheme of antichristianity, which is antitheism, precluding the application of the divine word, the instrument of sovereignty, to the souls of men. In short, the system of Popery I look upon as an entire counterpart of the Christian scheme, set up by Satan on the decay of faith to hold its place, uniting men to an earthly head and to each other by those interests from which Christianity delivers, and keeping the world in bondage, instead of leading men to heavenly things out of those interests, to be humbled in the presence of the world's dominion. The members of the Papal system will accordingly be found, in their interests, objects, and activities, such as would result from such a system. We know, blessed be God! that, in result, the kingdom of His Son will be glorified in the splendour of its great Head, and the destruction of that antichristian counterpart, by which Satan has deceived the nations under the pretence of Christianity."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Considerations Addressed to the Archbishop of Dublin&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt;, vol.1, p.6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby was not yet an Evangelical when he wrote this. He was still an High Churchman, who emphasised the sacraments and the authority of bishops.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115316488879692929?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115316488879692929/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115316488879692929' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115316488879692929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115316488879692929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/07/jn-darby-on-papal-system.html' title='J.N. 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Darby's Collected Writings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I may not be in fellowship at any Brethren assembly, but I sure can out-Darby any man of Plymouth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I carry a Scofield Bible too.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115196099411457049?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/115196099411457049/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=115196099411457049' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115196099411457049'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/115196099411457049'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' 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height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-115021078738947078</id><published>2006-06-13T07:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-06-13T07:59:47.690-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Dyspraxicfundamentalist- Bible Prophecy: The European Union and Bible Prophecy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2006/06/european-union-and-bible-prophecy.html"&gt;Dyspraxicfundamentalist- Bible Prophecy: The European Union and Bible Prophecy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-115021078738947078?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2006/06/european-union-and-bible-prophecy.html' 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src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114875467452830410</id><published>2006-05-27T11:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.824-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby: Does the Word of God Authorise the Naming Pastors and Presidents?</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Those who cling so fondly to the practise of making and settling churches, quote the Epistles of Timothy and Titus, with most undoubting confidence, as serving for the guidance to the churches in all ages; whilst they were really never addressed to any church whatever. It may be observed that the quotations from God's word on matters most bearing on those who are engaged in settling churches, such as the choosing of elders, deacons, etc., must be derived from these epistles alone- and most remarkable it is, that those companions of the apostle who posessed his confidence, were left in the churches, or else sent to them when already existing, in order to select such elders, when the apostle had not done it- a clear proof that the apostle could not confer upon the churches the power of choosing their elders, even when churches he had formed were still in existence; and notwithstanding, we hear all this adduced as instructions for the churches in after times. Official nomination is an assumption of apostolic authority, and contrary to the order and principles on which it took place then. Nor has this left the saints without resource when God graciously works. Pastors, and doctors (teachers- D.F.), and evangelists are gifts which have their places in the unity of the body, and have their just exercise wherever God has graciously given them; and in 1 Corinthians 16:15, 16, I find the Holy Ghost directing submission to all who in devotedness of heart have given themselves to true labour in the Lord. So in 1 Thessalonians 5:12, and Hebrews 13:17, teach the same godly substance to those who labour, and thus take the lead in the work of the Lord."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;On the Formation of Churches &lt;/em&gt;in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt;, vol.1, p.148-149&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114875467452830410?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114875467452830410/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114875467452830410' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114875467452830410'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114875467452830410'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-does-word-of-god-authorise.html' title='J.N. Darby: Does the Word of God Authorise the Naming Pastors and Presidents?'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114832621071424398</id><published>2006-05-22T12:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.824-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Lord's Purpose in Gathering the Saints on Earth</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is the desire of our hearts, and as we believe God's will under this dispensation, that all the children of God should be gathered together as such, and, consequently, as not of the world. The Lord hath given Himself 'not for that (the Jewish) nation only, but that he should gather together in one the children of God which are scattered abroad.' This gathering together in one was then the immediate object of Christ's death. The salvation of the elect was as certain before the His advent, though accomplished by it, as afterwards. The Jewish dispensation which preceded His coming into the world had for its object, not to gather the church upon earth, but to exhibit the government of God by means of an elect nation. At this time the Lord's purpose is to gather as well as to save, to realise unity, not merely in the heavens, where the purposes of God shall surely be accomplished, but here upon earth, by one Spirit sent down from heaven. By one Spirit we are all baptised into one body. This is undeniably the truth concerning the church as it is set before us in the word. Men may go about proving that hypocrites and evil men had crept into the church, but there is no resisting the inference that there was a church into which they had crept. The gathering of all the children of God in one body is plainly according to the mind of God in the word."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;On the Formation of Churches&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt; vol.1&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114832621071424398?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114832621071424398/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114832621071424398' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114832621071424398'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114832621071424398'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-lords-purpose-in-gathering.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Lord&apos;s Purpose in Gathering the Saints on Earth'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114795582341832847</id><published>2006-05-18T05:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:49:17.481-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Popery in Prophecy</title><content type='html'>This passage is taken from Darby's review of 'Thoughts on the Apocalypse', by B.W. Newton. Darby rejected Newton's position that Babylon was a commercial system based in the middle east, in favour of the more traditional view that Babylon represented Roman Catholicism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Nor do I the least see the control of the religious by the civil power, in the Roman earth: out of it I do most decidedly, but just the contrary within it. Popery is re-assuming its control of the civil power, though in a gentler, more subtlr way as yet; while Protestantism is more completely subject to it than ever, viewed as national churches. What is the fact? In England, Protestantism completely subjected, and Popery rising into influence and power; in Sardinia, a monastery having received the daughter of a foreign ambassador, the king avowed his inability to deliver her, because of the independence of the church, and Holland accepted the excuse; in Prussia the Protestants modelled by the king as his army; in Scotland the same thing as to national Protestants; Protestant bishopricks struck off in Ireland; the Pope's nuncio having precedence of all ambassadors of the courts of Europe; Spain, which had thrown off the control of the Pope, subjected to it again, and no other religion allowed in the country; in a word, the entire prostration of Protestantism under the civil authority, and the entire independence and growing influence of Popery- these are the evident facts of the day. Where the Greek Church exists in Russia, the same subjection exists, but the emperor will have nothing else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I repeat, in answer to page 242, that, as the facts are historically mis-stated, so Scripture does not note these things as characterising Babylon in the time of the end. To faith, the mystery of Babylon (great and blinding as the evil influence of commerce may be, which I fully believe)- to faith, I say, the character of Babylon is, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth; and no student of Scripture is ignorant what abominations mean. The statement of the writer is wholly contrary to the positive express statement of Scripture. No one denies the commercial system exists, nor its widespread influence; but it is not that by which God characterises Babylon, though it may be that by which the devil blinds man to her character; a blindness which I believe the author's statements help on in this respect."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Protestantism, save so far as it approaches Popery, is incompetent to act on and lead the masses, and therefore is comparatively useless to goverments. It values truth too much, and that is of no use to govern any with, save those who love it. Popery, therefore, is what governments cultivate. And by encouraging commerce and filling people with commercial prosperity, priciple becomes immaterial, and latitudinarianism leaves the field to Popish influences and Popish activity. Christians must be a separate people. The principle of dissent, which chimes in with the democratic principle, does not with the government, and will only have public power from a mixture of religious truth with human will, which can never go very far in the long run.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hence Popery is in every way in the ascendant while the government can hold the ascendant. But its sucess will ruin it, and I doubt no that popular unity which commercial entrprise will produce, and by which national feeling is necessarilly destroyed, will help on what democracy will ultimately demand, and is indeed demanding where ripended, and which political circumstances will render necessary- the establishment of a centre of union, and this will be found in the little horn. The consequence of this will be a subversion of all the peaceable system, and military energies and conflicts, which God will terminate by judgment. All this future every one will judge of according to the light given to him. As to the present facts to which I have referred, nothing is wanting but acqaintance with what is going on to recognise the truth of what I have said. That commerce plays a great role in this, I fully believe: men's hearts being occupied with it, that the actors on Satan's part may have leisure to do their work behind it, even more than by it. But whatever appears to man's eye and fills its horizon, to faith the name on Babylon's forehead is 'Mother of abominations'; on the beast's, 'blasphemy'. Look at Ireland, and you will see plainly what is doing."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"When the author says (page 259), 'fornication, deliciousness, etc, as much attach to it under the lordship of Antichrist,' he only exposes the absurdity of the whole system. It is with her the kigns of the earth have committed fornication. Do they continue to do so with herself after they have made her desolate, and burnt her with fire? The kings of the earth have done this. It is not the wickedness which was committed in the city, but with it. It is vain to slip out of this by saying 'attach to it.' But the ten horns have burnt with fire her with whom the kings of the earth did so. In page 260 the author seeks to divert the attention from Popery (although it be to be resisted) to this commercial system as the grand thing. This is the grand evil of all his theory. It directly diverts the attention from that by which Satan is morally working. I recognise the progress of commerce, its influence, is latitudinarianism, the leading part it is taking in the world's history. But in Satan's history it is otherwise, save as an instrument. His weapons are more deadly, more his own (htough he may use men's lusts to make them careless about them); but this statement is just ministering to his end. Indeed, from what I have said on chapter 13 as to Antichrist, it is plain all this prosperity and gladness do not exist in his time. It is a mere drama of the author, while the true Satanic character of evil is again overlooked in the second two-horned beast."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Examination of the Statements made in the 'Thoughts on the Apocalypse'&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt; vol.8, p.137-248&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114795582341832847?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114795582341832847/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114795582341832847' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114795582341832847'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114795582341832847'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-popery-in-prophecy.html' title='J.N. Darby on Popery in Prophecy'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114771266452355769</id><published>2006-05-15T09:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-15T10:16:21.986-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on a Sad Story</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote a paper entitled &lt;em&gt;Reflections on Mixed Marriages&lt;/em&gt;. It was prompted by the story of a Christian girl who had accepted an offer of marriage from a worldly man. She owned that the engagement was wrong but persisted in it. She became ill with a violent fever and died before the wedding. Darby took this to be the chastening of the Lord on a wayward child.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N. Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"There is another remark which the history of this young person leads me to make. The first start of a converted soul, however sincere it may be, produces anything but the judgment of self and the flesh, which, by unveiling to us our weakness, causes us to lay our burden at the feet of Jesus. We then seek for strength only in Him and we confide in Him alone. The confidence which a soul that knows and distrusts itself has in Jesus what gives it a lasting and solid peace, when it has understood, not only as a doctrine, but by the acceptance of the heart, that He alone is our righteousness. But we only arrive at this when we have been in the presence of God and have there made the discovery that we are only sin, that Christ is perfect righteousness, and God perfect love. From that time we distrust ourselves, we fight against ourselves, and the flesh and the enemy have no longer the same power to deceive us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not think that the young person of whom these pages speak had been stripped of self. There are many Christians in this condition, and although we may all be exposed to the same dangers, yet such have more particularly to dread the wiles of the enemy, because they have not learnt how far the flesh deceives us, and do not know with how terrible a traitor we have to do. When we have come to a knowledge of this, although there may be a lack of watchfulness, yet Christ has a larger place in the heart, and there is more calm, and less of self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Observe how deceitful the heart is, and how it looses all self-command when it departs from God. That poor young girl(when she was getting farther and farther into the slough, on the borders of which she had been trifling, to use her own expressions) asked her mother's friend to do all she could to remove every obstacle; and she, who was a woman of some piety, was surprised that A. should be disposed to unite herself with a worldly man. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How wily and deceitful is our heart! What slaves does an idol make of us. For although we may endeavour to escape the danger, yet we take means to secure the accomplishment of the thing that we desire, even while we flee from it. What a terrible thing it is to get away from God! This young person before she was entangled through this affection, would have shrunk with horror from the idea of such an action. When the heart has abandoned God, it dreads man even more than God. The God who loved A., and who was really beloved by her, must needs take her away from this world where she had not the courage to return to the right path. God took her to Himself. She died in peace, and through pure grace she triumphed. The Christian, whilst enjoying peace in his last moments, should always feel that it is God whose hand is there. What a solemn lesson for those who wish to depart from God and from His holy word, in order to satisfy an inclination which it would have been easy to overcome at first, but which, when cherished in the heart becomes tyrannical and fatal! May God grant to the reader of these lines, and to all His children, to seek His presence day by day."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Reflections on Mixed Marriages&lt;/em&gt; in &lt;em&gt;Collected Writings&lt;/em&gt;, vol.16&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114771266452355769?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114771266452355769/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114771266452355769' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114771266452355769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114771266452355769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-sad-story.html' title='J.N. Darby on a Sad Story'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114738471688920713</id><published>2006-05-11T14:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-11T14:58:36.973-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Dyspraxicfundamentalist- Bible Prophecy: Will the Beast Rule the Whole Planet?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2006/05/will-beast-rule-whole-planet.html"&gt;Dyspraxicfundamentalist- Bible Prophecy: Will the Beast Rule the Whole Planet?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New post on my Bible Prophecy blog.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114738471688920713?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/2006/05/will-beast-rule-whole-planet.html' title='Dyspraxicfundamentalist- Bible Prophecy: Will the Beast Rule the Whole Planet?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114738471688920713/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114738471688920713' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114738471688920713'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114738471688920713'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/dyspraxicfundamentalist-bible-prophecy.html' title='Dyspraxicfundamentalist- Bible Prophecy: Will the Beast Rule the Whole Planet?'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114736511958146471</id><published>2006-05-11T09:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-11T09:31:59.590-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: More than feet touch the floor</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-than-feet-touch-floor.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: More than feet touch the floor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great post by the IBEX Scribe.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114736511958146471?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-than-feet-touch-floor.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: More than feet touch the floor'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114736511958146471/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114736511958146471' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114736511958146471'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114736511958146471'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/shoes-off-at-door-please-more-than.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: More than feet touch the floor'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114716166730820843</id><published>2006-05-09T01:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-09T01:01:07.400-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/05/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award_08.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our award to countries in which removing shoes in homes is customary. The IBEX Scribe presents the award for the first time.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114716166730820843?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/05/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award_08.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114716166730820843/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114716166730820843' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114716166730820843'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114716166730820843'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/shoes-off-at-door-please-this-weeks_09.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114702317273434287</id><published>2006-05-07T10:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.824-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Apostleship of Paul</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The dispensation was born out of due time; it must prove itself by its energy from on high; so it had proved both in preaching Christ and teaching the church. But now Barnabas and Paul were to be sent out on a definite mission, and of course, they had derived authority now. Whence? Everything was still made to depend on the energy and calling of God. 'As certain prophets and teachers were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Paul and Barnabas for the work whereunto I have called them; and when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.' Did the apostle derive his authority, his apostolic authority, from his ordination? That would be a strange assertion; and he says he had it neither of nor by man. If this had been his first going forth to preach, it would have been almost impossible to have hindered the conclusion that it had its source in this, and the apostolate would merely have been from the church at Antioch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thereefore the Lord, to maintain the character of the dispensation, makes the apostle not confer with flesh and blood, but immediately preach on his calling, and afterwards separates him merely to the particular work to which he was called, thus securing its underivative character, and that by the direct action of the Spirit. Its value was the energy of the Spirit of God, because of the glory to be revealed, and the heavenly character of the dispensation which had its place in the glory, not here at all, and so ordered of God; otherwise apostolic authority is derived from laymen (in modern theory, self-ordained men), and the apostle's assertion of his apostolate falsified. But it was not; it was the Holy Ghost's separation of him to Himself for the work to which the Lord had called him, not the conferring a gift, as if his apostolate depended on that mission; for this the apostle denies at large in the Epistle to the Galatians, and passes by this going forth from Antioch entirely in the account of his mission which he gives to them, and it was not the derivation of authority; for this he is equally earnest to deny.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Paul, then, we have the founding of the service of this dispensation, resting on the fully recognised apostleship, but caused, in the way it is founded, to be entirely of a heavenly character, springing from the Lord known then in the glory, having its working and energy in the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven, and breaking in upon the derivative character of the apostolate in the Jews by every careful arrangement of God; and the laying on of hands made little of as regards the apostolate, and coming not from supeirior dervative authority, but entirely collaterally, that every link of this sort should be broken; and, we may add, failing as to its earthly position, the moment the energy of the Spirit failed, the moment the unstained godliness which kept out evil, and left the operations of the guven Spirit free, failed.Because the witness of the glory among the Gentiles was not to take the place of the glory, any more than the witness of the resurrection among the Jews was to take the place of resurrection-glory. And it was only a witness, and therefore shewn only to the apostles and teachers among the Jews, and Paul for the Gentiles, and having been witnessed to, fails as regards holding any place here, though effectual by the Spirit to them that believe, that abounding in hope through it, they might have an entrance into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour, when He shall be manifested as the risen and glorified One, and sorrow and trial pass away. And through the filling up, as it were, was in the ascended glory, of which Paul was the special witness (and therefore he laboured more abundantly than they all, as the full testimony was to be given to the world in him, the continuous Gentile dispensation), yet though he sustained it by the energy of the Spirit during his life, he knew well that it would end then, that is, as thus corporately held together: 'I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise speaking perverse things to draw away disciples after them.'"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from The Character of Office in the Present Dispensation in Collected Writings vol.1, p.103-105&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114702317273434287?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114702317273434287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114702317273434287' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114702317273434287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114702317273434287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-apostleship-of-paul.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Apostleship of Paul'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114659531137991622</id><published>2006-05-02T11:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-02T11:41:51.580-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/05/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My award to countries in which removing shoes in homes is the norm.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114659531137991622?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/05/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114659531137991622/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114659531137991622' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114659531137991622'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114659531137991622'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/shoes-off-at-door-please-this-weeks.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114658364597478035</id><published>2006-05-02T08:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:49:17.481-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Revelation 18:4</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Verse 4 is a cry to the people of the Lord to come out, etc. The mixture of Judaism and Christianity will be such as never was known before: Judaism, which is really heathenism, as in Galatians 4, where Paul calls observing days and years a turning back to the beggarly elements- being circumcised to keep the law, etc. It is the religion of the flesh. Up to the cross of Christ God was dealing with all this; but when Judaism is grafted on Christianity, it is hateful to Him. What are prayed to as Saint Peter and Saint Paul are demons: as they used to introduce false gods, so now they introduce false mediators. Puseyism is heathenism. The shapes of evil, counterfeiting God, are Judaism, demonism, and heathenism. Infidel latitudinarianism is the character of evil in England, different from what it is in India. Popery slurs over sin; no matter how they sin, an indulgence will atone for it. It is a shame for His people to be there, but He still remembers them (verse 4). People who are in the ark cannot be touched, but an apostate protection He will judge thoroughly."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Fragmentary Thoughts on Revelation&lt;/em&gt; in Collected Writings vol.34, p.223-224&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114658364597478035?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114658364597478035/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114658364597478035' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114658364597478035'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114658364597478035'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-revelation-184.html' title='J.N. Darby on Revelation 18:4'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114652029714852906</id><published>2006-05-01T14:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.825-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Heavenly Character of the Church</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"But there is another state of things far worse than this, when Babylon has carried the body of the people away, that is, the reluctance of the residue to stay in dependence of faith, and their determination to go down into Egypt for help, where judgment would surely overtake them. Such is the continual testimony of the human heart; such help is the church therefore continually seeking. But the church is not of this world, even as Christ is not of this world. And how is Christ not of this world? Surely in spirit and in character He is not of it, as it is an evil world, unholy, opposite to God. When His spotless excellency passed through, it was unscathed, though passing trough every scene that wearies and bows down our frail and feeble hearts. But it was with other thoughts also that Jesus was not of this world, and so said He of His disciples. He was not of it, but of heaven- the Lord from heaven; and we are not of it, but from thence, associated with Him who was holy, harmless, undefiled, and who is now separate from sinners, made higher than the heavens, now in manifested association (that is, to faith, as the object of it there), in the accomplishment of what forms the dispensation in the heavens. The founding of the dispensation upon the accomplishment of the exaltation of its Head is of the greatest importance, because it is the ground of ascertained rigteousness and its extent,and the seal and character of the whole dispensation. It belongs as being rejected in its Head from the world, to the heavenlies. But it is not merely as the result of the treatment of the Lord and His being glorified, that the dispensation had such a character, and held such a place. It was the secret of God hidden from ages and generations, and formed an extraordinary break in the dispensations, to the rejection, for their unbelief , of the proper earthly people of God; a forming out of the earth, but not for it, a body of Christ- a heavenly people associated with Him in glory in which He should be and should reign, when the full time was come, over the earth, in those times of restitution which should come from the presence of the Lord; a system forming no part of the earthly system, though carried on through the death of Christ in the forming of its members in it, but that, when all things are gathered together in one in Christ, in the dispensation of the fulness of times, these should be associates of His glory, in whom it and the riches of His grace should be shewn, given them in Christ Jesus before the world began, according to the gift of the Father; a purpose formed for Christ's especial and personal glory before the worlds, and kept secret till the time of His sending down the Spirit after the actual glory was accomplished, after He had entered, in risen manhood, into the glory which He had with the Father before the world was. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church has sought to settle itself here; but it has no place on the earth. It may shew forth heavenly glory here according to that given to it; but it has no place here, but in glory with Christ in heavenly places at His appearing. We, through the Spirit, wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The subject, as to the special distinctness of the dispensation, has been treated of elsewhere, and therefore I do not enter into it at large here. I believe it to ne the most important point for the church to consider now. Looked at as an earthly dispensation, it merely fills up, in detailed exercise of grace, the gap in the regular earthly order of God's counsels, made by the rejection of the Jews on the covenant of legal prescribed righteousness, in the refusal of the Messiah, till their reception again under the New Covenant in the way of grace on their repentance; but through making a most instructive parenthesis, it forms no part of the regular order of God's earthly plans, but is merely an interruption of them to give fuller character and meaning to them. As to the thing introduced, we are called to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is not the place or the time of His glory; our calling therefore is not here at all; but when Christ who is our life shall appear, we also shall be in glory. Ministration upon earth is merely to this purpose. The moment there is a minding of eartly things, there is enmity to the cross of Christ; for 'our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ; who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able to subdue all things to himself.' The Jewish system was a system of derived earthly authority; and while the church was simply among them, it never lost its earthly character entirely; it was open at any time for the return of the Lord, and was formed upon the order of derivative authority from Him when He had not yet ascended into glory, though it was accomplished by the Spirit, which enabled them to testify to His ascended glory. But they were Jews; and they maintained the character of the earthly system so far as it was associated with the resurrection of Christ was the 'sure mercies of David.'"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;The Character of Office in the Present Dispensation&lt;/em&gt; in Collected Writings vol.1, p.93-95&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114652029714852906?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114652029714852906/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114652029714852906' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114652029714852906'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114652029714852906'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-heavenly-character-of.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Heavenly Character of the Church'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114651993865470214</id><published>2006-05-01T14:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.825-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Christian Liberty to Preach</title><content type='html'>by J.N. Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"For the rest, they were all to speak, that all might learn and all be comforted. Not all to speak every day, but all as God led them, according to the order there laid down, and as God was pleased to give them the ability for the edifying of the church. I apply all this simply and exclusively to the question of Christians in general, having God's Spirit, using their respective gifts; and I assert that there was no such principle recognised as that they should not, but the contrary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It may and will be said by many, that these were times of the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit. But the Spirit of God does not justify breaking through His own order by systematic rules; it would be most mischevious to say that He did. But the case, let it be observed, was not one of the prerogative of the spiritual gifts, but of order; for women had spiritual gifts, as we read elsewhere, and directions are given for their exercise; but they were not to use them in the church, because it was out of order- not comely. At the same time there was no hint that any or all of the men were not, but the contrary, because it was not out of order. Aptness to teach may be a very important qualification for a bishop, but it cannot be said, from scripture, to be disorderly for any member of the body to speak in the church, if God had given him ability. Besides, though these extraordinary gifts may have ceased, I by no means admit that the ordinary gifts of believers, for the edification of the church, have ceased. On the contrary, I believe they are the instruments, the only real instruments of edification; nor do I see why, on principle, they should not be exercised in the church, or why the church has not a title to the edification derived from them. If the presence of the indwelling Spirit be in the church, it has that which renders it substantially competent to its own edification, and to worship God 'in spirit and in truth.' If it be not there, nothing else can be recognised, and it is a church no longer; fo no makeshift is warranted by Scripture in default of the original constitutive character and endowments of a dispensation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in thus upholding the common title of the saints, it may be supposed by some that the arguments will be at once met by referring to the orderly way in which Christ originally gave in His church 'some apostles; and some prophets; and some pastors and teachers,' etc. Now, unless one man centres all these offices in one person, by virtue of ordination, the objection will not apply, but on the contrary, brings its own refutation. For we read, some had one service, some another- the head, Christ, 'from the whole body, fitly framed together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.' We read also that the members are set in the body, one the eye, the other the foot, the other the ear, that there 'might be no schism in the body.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it is a thought which might well commend itself to our minds, that if we have indeed lost many and ornamental members, it is no reason why we should summarily cut off the rest- the word of wisdom or the word of knowledge, and the like, of which there is assuredly some measure yet remaining in the church. But if the attempt should be made to close the enquiry, by silencing all discussion with the startling assertion that it is useless, for the Spirit of God is utterly and altogether gone out of the Church; it at once brings on the question, If so, what are we, and where are we? The church of God without the Spirit? Verily, if He be not there, all union between Christ and His members is cut off, and the promise, 'I am with you always, even unto the end of the world' is made of none effect. But the word of God shall stand. 'The world indeed cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him,' but let the disciples of Jesus know that He is with them; and that 'wheresoever two or three are gathered together in his name,' He is there in their midst, His Spirit is with them for instruction and blessing. Is this correct?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;Chrsitian Liberty to Preach and Teach the Lord Jesus Christ&lt;/em&gt; in Collected Writings vol.1, p.70-72&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114651993865470214?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114651993865470214/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114651993865470214' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114651993865470214'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114651993865470214'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/jn-darby-on-christian-liberty-to.html' title='J.N. Darby on Christian Liberty to Preach'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114651944289780947</id><published>2006-05-01T14:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:45:30.825-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>A Simple Explanation of who the Exclusive Brethren are</title><content type='html'>The Exclusive Brethren are the more rigid wing of the Plymouth Brethren movement, which emphasises the unity of all Christians and the the role of the Holy Spirit in leading worship (that is not to say that the other wing, the Open Brethren are not sometimes just as rigid).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The split between the Open Brethren and the Exclusive Brethren took place in 1849. J.N. Darby, the most prominent man in the early Brethren and the founder of the Dispensational system, was concerned that B.W. Newton was behaving in an authoritarian manner in the Plymouth assembly of Brethren. After a period of tension, he separated from fellowship with that assembly. It was later discovered that Newton was teaching suspect things about the person of Christ. He had taught that Christ took on the guilt of both Adam and Israel as a result of the Incarnation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several members of the Plymouth assembly were received into fellowship at the Bristol assembly. This assembly was under the eldership of George Muller, the famous founder of Bristol orphanage. When Darby challenged this, the elders at Bristol issued a statement known as the Letter of the Ten. This explained the principles on which they had judged the reception of those individuals from Plymouth. It denied the need to judge the teaching of the Plymouth assembly. Darby encouraged other assemblies to condemn this position. Muller declared in response that nobody who held Newton's errors would be accepted into fellowship. However, the majority of assemblies agreed with Darby that this was not good enougth, because there was no withdrawal of the principles of the 'Letter of the Ten' or any admission that the original judgment had been wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those assemblies that sided with Darby became known as Exclusive Brethren, while those who sided with Muller became known as Open Brethren.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The schism is made a little complicated by Muller's claim that he was visited by Darby after he condemned Newton's errors. Darby allegedly offered reconciliation to Muller. However, Muller claimed that he lost his temper and said that Darby had 'behaved very wickedly' and that he had no further time to spend dealing with the issue. Darby allegedly left in anger. While Darby does not appear to have denied that he met Muller on this occasion (as some Exclusive historians claim), he denied that this conversation took place as reported by Muller.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Exclusive Brethren differ from the Open Brethren in that they reject the notion of assemblies being independent and uphold the necessity of assemblies acting in unity. They also reject the appointment of elders today. They have varying postions on the reception of Christians to the Lord's Supper. In theory, at least they accept that all Christians have the right to participate in the Lord's Supper, but they will not accept Open Brethren, as they consider them to be upholding evil because of the events of 1849. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There have been many splits in the Exclusive Brethren. Most divisions accept the baptism of infants. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main party of Exclusives, the Raven/ Taylor group has moved in a remarkable direction. It departed from the teaching of Darby in denying the Eternal Sonship of Christ and adopting the Apollinarain heresy, that Christ did not have a human soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Raven/ Taylor division turned into a cult in the sixties. Its leaders began to wield enormous power over members, enforcing silly rules, such as the bans on pets and facial hair. Those who do not comply are excommunicated and are forbidden any contact with family members who remain in the fellowship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Raven/ Taylor Exclusives are very secretive. They do not sell their publications to the public and non-members are not allowed to attend their services without prior appointment. Female members are recognisable by their headscarves and members of both sexes are recognisable by their glum faces and grim expressions. When you get to know them, you find that they do have a sense of humour. They enjoy alcohol.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I work in the office of a company owned by Raven/ Taylor Exclusives. I found the job at the same time that I started researching Darby, which is incredible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The company is officially against computers, because of the sect's rules, however, they make heavy use of computers through the intermediary of self-employed non-members, just like Jews paying Gentiles to light their fires on the Sabbath.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114651944289780947?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114651944289780947/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114651944289780947' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114651944289780947'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114651944289780947'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/05/simple-explanation-of-who-exclusive.html' title='A Simple Explanation of who the Exclusive Brethren are'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114643168367572916</id><published>2006-04-30T14:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:50:01.337-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Denominations</title><content type='html'>By John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In the first place, it is not a formal union of the outward professing bodies that is desirable; indeed it is surprising that reflecting Protestants should desire it: far from doing good, I conceive it would be impossible that such a body could be at all recognised as the church of God. It would be a counterpart to Romish unity; we should have the life of the church and the power of the word lost, and the unity of spiritual life utterly excluded. Whatever plans may be in the order of Providence, we can only act upon the principles of grace; and true unity is the unity of the Spirit, and it must be wrought by the operation of the Spirit. In the great darkness of the Church hitherto, outward division has been a main support, not only of zeal (as is very generally admitted), but also of the authority of the word, which is instrumentally the life of the church; and the Reformation consisted not, as has been commonly said, in the institution of a pure form of church, but in setting up the word, and the great Christian foundation and corner stone of 'Justification by faith', in which believers might find life. But further, if the view that has been taken of the state of the church be correct, we may adjudge that he is an enemy to the work of the Spirit of God who seeks the interests of any particular denomination; and that those who believe in 'the power and coming of the Lord Jesus Christ' ought carefully to keep from such a spirit; for it is drawing back the church to a state occasionrd by ignorance and non-subjection to the word, and making a duty of its worst and antichristian results. This is a most subtle and prevailing mental disease, 'he followeth not us,' even when men are really Christians. Let the people of God see if they be not hindering the manifestation of the church by this spirit. I believe there is scarecely a public act of Christian men (at any rate of the higher orders, or of the higher orders, or of those who are active in the nomminal churches), which is not infected with this; but its tendency is manifestly hostile to the spiritual interests of the people of God, and the manifestation of the glory of Christ. Christians are little aware how this prevails in their minds; how they seek their own, not the things of Jesus Christ; and how it dries up the springs of grace and spiritual communion; how it precludes that order to which blessing is attached- the gathering together in the Lord's name. No meeting, which is not framed to embrace all the children of God in the full basis of the kingdom of the Son, can find the fulness of blessing, because it does not contemplate it- because its faith does not embrace it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where two or three are gathered together in His name, His name is recorded there for blessing; because they are met in the fulness of the power of the unchangeable interests of that everlasting kingdom in which it has pleased the glorious Jehovah to glorify Himself, and to make His name and saving health known in the Person of the Son, by the power of the Spirit. In the name of Christ, therefore they enter (in whatever measure of faith) into the full counsels of God, and are 'fellow-workers under God.' Thus whatever they ask is done, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. But the very foundation on which these promises rest is broken up, and its consistecy destroyed, by bonds of communion not formed on the scope of the purposes of God in Christ. I say not, indeed, that they may not find a feeble measure of spiritual food; which, though generally partial in its character, may be suited to strengthen their personal hope of eternal life. But the glory of the Lord is very near the believing soul, and in proportion as we seek it, will personal blessing be found. It puts me in mind indeed (as all doubtless have some separate portion of the form of the church) of those who parted the Saviour's garments among them; while that inner vest, which could not be rended, which was inseparably one in its nature, was cast lots for whose it should be; but in the meanwhile, the name of Him, the presence of the power of whose life would unite them all in appropriate order, is left exposed and dishonoured. Indeed, I fear that these have fallen too much into the hands of those who care not for Him, and that the the Lord will never clothe Himself with them again, viewed in their present state. Indeed, it could not be when He appears in His glory. I say it not in presumption or dislike (for the reproach of it is a grievous burden, it is an humbling, most afflicting thought): but that second temple that had been raised by the mercy of God after the long Babylonish captivity, we have learned to trust in too much as 'the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord are these'; we have been haughtybecause of the Lord's holy mountain; we have looked at it as adorned with goodly stones and gifts; and have ceased to look to the Lord of the temple- have ceased almost to walk by faith, or to have communion in the hope of the return of the messenger of the covenant to be the glory of this latter house. The unclean spirit of idolatry may have been purged out; but the question remains, Is there the effectual presence of the Spirit of the Lord, or is it merely empty swept and garnished? If we have been at all blessed, are we not disregarding Him from whom it came, by pride, and self-complacency, and seeking to turn it to our own instead of to His glory? Let us then pass, brethren beloved of the Lord- ye who love Him in sincerity, and would rejoice in His voice- to the practical exigency of our present situation. Let us weigh His mind concerning us. The Lord has made known His purposes in Him, and how those purposese are effected. 'He hath made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath puposed in himself, that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, he should gather together in one all things in Christ,whether they be things in heaven or things on earth, even in him, in whom we have also received an inheritance'- in one and in Christ."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Nature and Unity of the Church of Christ &lt;/em&gt;in Collected Writings of JN Darby volume 1, p.24-26&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114643168367572916?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114643168367572916/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114643168367572916' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114643168367572916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114643168367572916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-denominations.html' title='J.N. Darby on Denominations'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114643156219716963</id><published>2006-04-30T14:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:50:56.491-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Evil of Clericalism</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In the statement which I make here, I make no rash or hasty expression of feeling, but what I believe the Lord would press upon the minds of Christians, and that which they must receive: that, the converse of which He might bear with in practise, while it did not interfere with and oppose the purposes of His grace, winking at the ignorance, but cannot when it does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The statement which I make is this, that I believe the notion of a Clergyman to be the sin against the Holy Ghost in this dispensation. I am not talking of individuals wilfully committing it, but that the thing itself is such as regards this dispensation, and must result in its destruction: the substitution of something for the power and presence of that holy, blessed and blessing Spirit, by which this dispensation is characterised, and by which the unrenewedness of man, and the authority of man, holds the place which alone that blessed Spirit has power and title to fill, as that other Comforter which should abide for ever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the notion of a Clergyman has had the effect of the substitution of anything which is of man, and therefore subject to Satan, in the place and prerogative of that blessed Spirit exercising the vicarship of Christ in the world, it is clear, that however the providence of God may have overruled it, in the ignorance which He could wink at, it does, when stood upon and restedin against the presence and work of the Spirit, become direct sin against Him- pure, dreadful, and destructive evil- the very cause of destruction to the church. I must be observed to say nothing whatever against offices in the church of Christ, and the exercise of authority in them, whether episcopal or evangelical in character. It were a vain and unnecessary work here to prove the recognition of that on which the Scripture is so plain. But they are spoken of in Scripture as gifts from on high: 'He gave some apostles' Eph.4:5, 7, 11; so in 1 Corinthians 12, they are known only as gifts. My objection to the notion of a Clergyman is, that it substitutes something in the place of all these, which cannot be said to be of God at all, and is not found in Scripture. Now, I believe the whole priciple of this to be contained in this dispensation in the word clergyman, and that this is the necessary root of that denial of the Holy Ghost which must, from the nature of the dispensation, end in its dissolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am quite aware that people will say, that this is not the sin against the Holy Ghost, that it may amount to resisting the Holy Ghost, but sin against the Holy Ghost is quite another thing. It is not so much another thing as people would suppose. At any rate the cause of the destruction of the Jewish system was this very thing: 'Ye do always resist the Holy Ghost; as your fathers did, so do ye.' And I am perfectly satisfied, however this dispensation may be prolonged in order to the gathering of souls out of the world, of God's elect, it has sealed its destruction in the rejection and resistance of the Spirit of God. But I go a great deal farther, and I affirm, though that were sin enough, that the notion of a Clergyman puts the dispensation specifically in the position of the sin against the Holy Ghost, and that every Clergyman is contributing to this. The sin against the Holy Ghost was the ascribing to the power of evil that which came from the Holy Ghost: and such is the direct operation of the idea of a Clergyman. It charges the testimony of the Lord Jesus Christ, which the Spirit gives by the mouth of those whom He chooses, whom they are pleased to call laymen, and the rigteousness of conduct which flows from the reception of that testimony, with disorder and schism. Now, God is not the author of confusion or disorder, nor of schism, but the enemy of souls is; and to charge the plain testimony which the Holy Ghost gives concerning the Lord Jesus Christ, and the effects which it produces, with disorder and schism, is to charge the work of God with being evil, and from the evil one. But if clergyman have the exclusive privilege of preaching, teaching, and ministering communion, which they claim, and which is the very sense and meaning of their title, then must it be all evil. That is, the notion of a Clergyman necessarilly involves the charge of evil on the work of the Holy Ghost, and therefore, I say, that the notion of a Clergyman involves the dispensation, where insisted upon, in the sin against the Holy Ghost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinners are converted to God, souls called out of darkness, the truth preached with energy an love to souls, with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven, in constraint and constancy (in whatever weakness) of the Redeemer's love: men are gathered from evil and wickedness (for I will put the fullest case my adversaries could wish) into the communion of the Lord's love, to bear witness to their sole dependence on His dying love; and this is producing confusion and schism- of which God is not the author, but Satan- because they are not, nor are brought together, by clergymen! What is this but to charge the work of divine grace with proceeding from, and having the character of, the author of evil, which is blasphemy? and this is the immediate and direct effect, the necessary effect, of the notion- the exclusive notion of a Clergyman."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taken from &lt;em&gt;The Notion of a Clergyman Dispensationally the Sin against the Holy Ghost&lt;/em&gt; in Collected Writings of J.N. Darby, vol.1, p.39-40&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114643156219716963?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114643156219716963/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114643156219716963' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114643156219716963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114643156219716963'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-evil-of-clericalism.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Evil of Clericalism'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114632953439729454</id><published>2006-04-29T09:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-29T09:52:14.406-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: Shoes still Need to Come Off in Summer</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/04/shoes-still-need-to-come-off-in-summer.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: Shoes still Need to Come Off in Summer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114632953439729454?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/04/shoes-still-need-to-come-off-in-summer.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: Shoes still Need to Come Off in Summer'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114632953439729454/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114632953439729454' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632953439729454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632953439729454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/shoes-off-at-door-please-shoes-still.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: Shoes still Need to Come Off in Summer'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114632827611909926</id><published>2006-04-29T09:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-29T09:31:16.120-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Extract from a Reading on the Seven Churches with J.N. Darby</title><content type='html'>Q. What would answer to Balaam now?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N.D. Drawing the saints of God into the world, and corrupting tham, and teaching error for reward. See Jude as to this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Balaam was an extraordinary character; he had this revelation of the name of Jehovah, and he was connected with Satan's power. He says, "I could not go beyond the commandment of Jehovah, my God," and yet he sought for enchantments. See Numbers 23:4, 16; chap.24:1. Balaam was using the name and authority of Jehovah, and taking guidance of the devil. And this is what the professing church is doing. When Balaam cannot curse Israel, he tempts them to fornication; and then he gets them to worship Baal. The whole of it is Satan's power in Popery. When one gets into Papal countries, one finds plenty of winking Madonnas, and such things, which it is impossible to account for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not that the full corruption was there as yet, but it was coming in as plain as could be in many ways. Later on, heathen practises were Christianised, the tombs of the martyrs took the place of that of Hercules. They used holy water at the idols' temples; the practise was then transferred, and the Christians sprinkled themselves. It is a curious thing that as soon as the council of Ephesus decided that Mary was the mother of God, the heathens came in en masse. In Switzerland alone, seven great temples became Christian at once. The great body of worshippers came in; instead of having the nother of the gods, it was the mother of God, that was all. Nobody denies it. When they came over to convert England, directed by Pope Gregory to do so, they were not to pull down the temples, but only to change their use, and to change also their feasts in the same way. This was in the seventh century. It was all done deliberately and systematically. And then they worked miracles at these places. If one goes into a church dedicated to Mary, one will find a holy well, and a bush covered with bits of rag- votive offerings- just as it used to be to Escalapius. A great deal of it is ignorance, but Satan is in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. Satan?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N.D. Do you think if I go to the mother of God and worship her, it is not of Satan? I do not believe that Mesmerism is all imposture. Nor do I limit spiritual fornication to Popery; the religious world is in its measure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In chapter 17, the woman has a golden cup with which people get intoxicated. Ritualism is this, in principle, but without the Pope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. Do you expect the miraculous power to be largely put forth?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N.D. On the devil's side, I do, especially after the church is gone; there will be "signs and lying wonders."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same words are used in 2 Thessalonians 2:9 as to antichrist as are used by Peter in Acts 2:22, to shew that Jesus was a man approved by God; these three words are: "miracles and wonders and signs". Another thing that makes it the more striking is, that what Elijah did to prove thatJehovah was God of Israel, is done also in Revelation 13, where antichrist, the second beast,makes fire come down out of heaven. Satan will do the same, in a lying way, of course. Mesmerism is more connected with infidelity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Satan is cast down from heaven, he gives up his anti-priestly character, and then there is only left to him to be anti-king and anti-prophet. This second beast merges then into the false prophet. And he has two horns like a lamb.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. Why do you call Satan anti-priest?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N.D. This is his character as the accuser of the brethren.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When cast out he resuscitates the first beast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are two almighty powers of God- justice and mercy. Of these two, the Romanists put justice into Christ's hands, and mercy into Mary's. (See Ligouri's "Glories of Mary") I believe it is this which stopped Pusey; he says he cannot get over this, and I believe it is because he loves Christ that he cannot. The whole Romanist theory is, that Mary is the mediator of mercy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(J.N. Darby 'Notes and Jottings, p.366-368)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114632827611909926?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114632827611909926/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114632827611909926' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632827611909926'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632827611909926'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/extract-from-reading-on-seven-churches.html' title='Extract from a Reading on the Seven Churches with J.N. Darby'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114632816744082074</id><published>2006-04-29T09:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-29T09:29:27.443-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Nephilim</title><content type='html'>by John Nelson Darby&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I can understand two distinct classes here, but they seem to have subsisted together. though the first may have, in the first instance, preceded the second. They may have been Cain's progeny; another offspring of the unholy mixture of the sons of God and the daughters of men. Certainly the two are brought out as bringing about the Flood, they both characterised the epoch which brought about the Flood-'those days.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The principle is the mixture of those who are of God with evil, but I am not aware that B'ney ha-Elohim (Sons of God) is ever used for men. Job 38:7, they are surely not men, but angelic; so Job 1:6. B'ney ha-El khay (sons of the Living God) in Hosea 1:10 (in the Hebrew 2:1) is surely different. Judges are called 'Elohim', but not B'ney ha-Elohim (sons of God). But there is no question of that here; so that the usage is certainly for beings angelic, not human, in nature; see Jude. I cannot for a moment doubt the force of this B'ney ha-Elohim (sons of God), and b'noth ha-Adam (daughters of man); and Jude quite confirms it. It seems to me also that akharey ken is not 'afterwards' but 'after that'; i.e. the consequence of this alliance; they were Titans and such like. All these traditions had a source. It may be questioned if the nephilim (giants) and gib-bo-rim (mighty ones) are identical. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then, afterwards, only the general state of the race of Ha-Adam (Man) is spoken of. The sons of Anak are called nephilim; elsewhere giants are 'Rephaim'; the connection with the traditions of giants, Titans, etc., seems evident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot help thinking of giants, Titans (mythology), and the details referred to in them, are direectly connected, not merely with the fact of the deluge, but- though mixed up with the original desire and temptation, 'ye shall be as gods'- with the apostasy of angels, and the frightful oppression, war and corruption and open rebellion against God. No doubt Scripture- the Spirit of God- has clothed all this dreadful evil with a veil of brief words, and pious minds will see the divine wisdom, and perfectness of this, yet enougth, as in so many cases, to explain all the traditions of the heathen world as to it, and that is all we want. The tartarosas of 2 Peter, and the sinning angels of Jude; the genealogy of Titans, and their end are too closely connected not to give a character to the history of the world before the Flood, which accounts for its being passed over. It is curious that these poor slaves of the enemy while worshipping the gods who they alleged destroyed the Titans, yet honoured these as illustrious, and the origin of creation; and how Satan had suceeded in making the righteous Noah and his family, who were spared, into fallen gods, though they owned the judgment on apostasy which had spared them. But such is man, if not kept of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Notes and Comments vol.1, p.50-51&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114632816744082074?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114632816744082074/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114632816744082074' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632816744082074'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632816744082074'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-nephilim.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Nephilim'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114632803311516840</id><published>2006-04-29T09:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-29T09:27:13.116-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Anti-Christ and Christendom</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We learn, then, from these scriptures to which we have been referring, that the immediate occasion, object and inner spring of all the terrible judgment which is coming, is the professing church itself. It ought to have been God's witness on the earth, Christ's epistle known and read of all men; but, having been corrupt, it is this professing church that primarily and definitely brings down the wrath of God. Oh! beloved friends, there cannot be a more solemn subject than this, that not only will Israel and the beast fall under judgment, but, according to God's own word, the professing church will come under the same condemnation. I apply the word 'church' here to Christendom, that which professes to bear the name of Christ. There is the same testimony in John's epistle, 'Even now are there many Antichrists.' I have no doubt but that the Antichrist will arise among the Jews, and he will be a full manifestation of the spirit of Antichrist which even now denies the Father and the Son, and also denies that Jesus is the Christ. It is indeed most fearful to think of that apostasy bearing a religious character as it does; that which characterises the many Antichrists is the denial of Christian truth, and though there will be full apostasy, still it will be an apostasy from the doctrines of Christianity. How soon did the spirit of it come in! how very soon was there cause to say that 'all men seek their own, and not the things of Jesus Christ!' May the Lord graciously open the eyes of His saints, to see the tone and real character of these last evil days, and to remember that though He has long patience while He is gathering out souls for salvation, and in this sense to 'account that the long-suffering of the Lord is salvation'- that His judgment, though delayed is not changed; for the word is gone forth out of His mouth, and the only remedy for the present evil is in judgment."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Addresses To The Seven Churches in Collected Writings vol.5, p.374&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114632803311516840?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114632803311516840/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114632803311516840' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632803311516840'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114632803311516840'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-anti-christ-and.html' title='J.N. 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Darby on the Book of Ruth</title><content type='html'>Ruth, a stranger, and the grace of God in the midst of evil&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The Book of Ruth tells us also of the days of the judges, when there was no king in Israel; but it shews us the fair side of those days, in the operations of the grace of God, who (blessed be His name!) never failed to work in the midst of the evil, as also in the steady progress of events towards the fulfilment of His promises in the Messiah, whatever may have been the simultaneous progress of the general evil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ruth, a stranger seeking shelter by faith under the wings of the God of Israel, is received in grace, and the genealogy of David, king over Israel according to grace, is linked with her. It is the genealogy of the Lord Jesus Himself after the flesh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The typical character of the book&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book appears to me to set before us in type, the reception in grace of the remnant of Israel in the last days, their Redeemer (the kinsman, who has the right of redemption) having taken their cause in hand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eli-Melech (which signifies God the King) being dead, Naomi (my delight, my pleasure) becomes a widow, and eventually loses her children also. She typifies the Jewish nation, who, having lost her God, is like a widow and has no heir. Yet there shall be a remnant, destitute of all right to the promises (and therefore prefigured historically by a stranger), who will be received in grace (similarly to the Gentiles and the assembly [1] )—who will faithfully and heartily identify itself with desolate Israel; for Ruth clave to her and to her God (see chap. 1: 16). God will own this remnant, which, poor and afflicted itself, will in heart obey the commands given to the people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Naomi, who in her destitution is a type of the nation, acknowledges her condition: she calls herself Mara (bitterness).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He who was nearest of kin, who would willingly have redeemed the inheritance, refuses to do so, if Ruth must be taken with it. The law was never able (nor the assembly either) to re-establish Israel in their inheritance, nor to raise up in grace the name of the dead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Boaz, the Kinsman-Redeemer&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Boaz (in him is strength), upon whom the remnant had no direct claim (and who typifies Christ risen, in whom are the sure mercies of David), undertakes to raise up the name of the dead, and to re-establish the heritage of Israel. Acting in grace and in kindness, and encouraging the patient humble faith of the remnant, the meek of the earth, he shews himself faithful to fulfil the purpose and the will of God with respect to this poor desolate family. Nothing can be more touching and exquisite than the details given here. The character of Ruth, this poor woman of the Gentiles, has great beauty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Naomi took the child that was born to her, and laid it in her bosom"; and they said, "There is a son born to Naomi." In fact the heir of the promises will be born unto Israel as a nation, although the fulfilment of the promise affects the remnant only, which, fully identifying itself with the interests of God's people, has sought neither the rich nor the poor, but, in faith and obedience, has kept the testimony of God amongst the people in the path appointed by Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The contrast between the books of Ruth and Judges&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, if on one side the Book of Judges shews us the falling away of the people of Israel, and their failure under responsibility, even when God was their helper, on the other side this touching and precious book sets before us, as the dawn of better things, grace acting in the midst of difficulties, securing the fulfilment of promise, and embellishing this scene of misery and sin by lovely and beautiful instances of faith, precious fruits of grace, whether in weakness and devotedness, or in strength and kindness, and always in accordance with the perfect will of God, and assuring by this touching history, as a type, the full restoration of Israel to blessing according to promise. It is a refreshing and lovely picture in the midst of the hard-mindedness and sorrows of Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ruth as the intermediate link between Israel's fall and prophecy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the succeeding books we shall see prophecy, and the history of God's dealings, developing the body of events which tended to the fulfilment of His designs, the first principles, the elements, of which are laid down in that which is shewn us in this. For Ruth furnishes a kind of intermediate link between the fall of Israel under God's immediate government, and the future fulfilment of His purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prophecy, which unfolds these purposes and gives moral proof of this fall, begins with Samuel: we learn this from the apostle Peter, and that Christ is the object of prophecy (see Acts 3: 24).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eli, the last judge and priest, departs; his family is to be cut off; the ark of the covenant is taken by the Philistines; and Samuel, consecrated to God in a new and extraordinary manner, comes in with the special testimony of the Lord."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Synopsis Vol.1)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114621435221829255?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114621435221829255/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114621435221829255' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114621435221829255'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114621435221829255'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-book-of-ruth.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Book of Ruth'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114621422305602503</id><published>2006-04-28T01:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.666-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby- 'The Children of God have Nothing to do but to Meet Together in the Name of the Lord'</title><content type='html'>"With what design then am I writing? Is it that Christians should do nothing? No! I have written from a desire that there should be less presumption and more diffidence in what we undertake to do: and that we should feel more deeply the ruined condition to which we have reduced the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you say to me, 'I have separated myself from the evil that my conscience disapproves, that which is at variance with the Word'- it is well. If you urge that God's word requires the saints to be one and united; that it tells us that, there where two or three are gathered together, Jesus is in the midst of them, and that therefore you 'assemble yourselves' together, Isay again it is well. But if you go on to tell me that you have organised a church, or combined together with others to do so; that you have chosen a president or a pastor, and that having done this, you are now a church, or the Church of God of the place you inhabit- I put this question- My dear friends, who has commissioned you to do all this? Even according to your principle of immitation (although to immitate power is an absurdity: and the kingdom of God is 'in power'), where do you find all this is in the word? I see no trace of churches having elected presidents or pastors. You say that for the sake of order it must be so. My answer is, I cannot get off the ground of the word- 'He that gathereth not with me scattereth.' To say that it is necessary that it should be so, is to reason after the manner of men. Your order, being constituted by the will of man, will soon be seen to be disorder in the sight of God. If there are but two or three met together in the name of Jesus, He will be there. If God raises up pastors from amongst you, or sends them among you, it is well; it is a blessung. Bu ever since the day when the Holy Spirit formed the church, we have no record in the word that the church has chosen them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What then, it will be asked, must we do? That which faith ever does- acknowledge our weakness and take the place of dependance upon God. God is sufficent in all ages for His church. It is of the last importance that our faith should hold fast the truth, that whatever the ruin of the church on earth, there is ever in Christ all the grace, and faithfulness, and power needed for the circumstances in which the Church is. He never fails. If you are but 'two or three' who have faith for it, meet together: you will find that Christ is with you. Call upon Him. He can raise up whatever is needed for the blessing of the saints; and doubt not He will do so. The blessing will not be ensured to us through a pretension on our part to be something when we are nothing. In how many places has not blessing to the saints not been hindered by this choosing of presidents or pastors? In how many places might not the saints have assembled together with joy in the strength of that promise made by Christ to the 'two or three' if they had not been scared by the pretended necessity for organisation, and by charges of disorder (just as if man were wiser than God), and if their fear of disorder had not persuaded them to continue a state of things which they confess to be wrong? Nor does the continuation of these organised bodies by man hinder the dommination of a single individual, or a struggle between several. It tends rather to produce it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That which the church specially needs is the deep feeling of her ruin and necessity, a feeling which turns for refuge to God- with confession, and keeps clear from all known evil- acknowledges the authority of Christ, as He who rules as Son over His own house, and the Spirit of God as the sole power in the church; and by so doing, acknowledges every one whom He sends, according to the gift such a one has received, and that with thanksgiving to Him, who by such gift constitutes such brother a servant of all under the authority of the great Head, the great Shepherd of the sheep. To acknowledge the world to be the church, or to pretend to again set up the church, are two things equally condemned and unauthorised by the word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you say, what then is to be done? I rejoin- Why are you ever thinking of doing something? To confess the sin which has brought us where we are, to humble ourselves low before the Lord, and separating from that which we know to be evil, to lean upon Him who is able to do all that is necessary for our blessing, without assuming to do more, ourselves, than the word authorises us to do- such is the position, humble it is true, but proportionately blessed by God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A point of the uttermost importance, which they who wish to organise churches seem to have altogether lost sight of, is that there is such a thing as POWER, and that the Holy Spirit alone has the power to gather and build up the church. They seem to think that, as soon as they have certain passages of scripture, they have nothing to do but to act them out; but under the garb of faithfulness, there is in this a fatal error- it consists in leaving aside the presence and power of the Holy Spirit. We can only act out the word of God by the power of God. But the constituting the church was a direct effect of the power of the Holy Ghost. To leave aside that power, and still hold to the pretension of immitating the primitive church in what flowed from that power, is strangely to delude ourselves. Only I remark must that, where a direct act of obediance is concerned, the Christian has not to wait for power: the constant grace of Christ is his power to obey the word. In what precedes, I speak of the power to do a divine work in the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know that those who esteem these little organised associations to be the churches of God, see nothing but mere meetings of men in every other gathering of God's children. There is a very simple answer on this matter. Such brethren have no promise authorising them to set up again the churches of God when they have fallen, whilst there is a positive promise that, where two or three are gathered in the name of Jesus, He is in their midst. Thus there is no promise in favour of the system by which men organise churches, while there is a promise for that 'assembling together' which so many of the children of God despise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what do we see to be the consequence of the pretensions of these bodies? Those who contrast these pretensions with the reality, are disgusted and repelled: while multitudes of them are formed apart from each other, on the various views and opinions of those who formed them; and thus the desired object is hindered, namely the union of God's children. Here and there the pastor's gifts may produce much effect; or it may happen that all who are Christians may be living in unity, and there will be much joy; but the same thing would have resulted though there should have been no pretension whatever to be the church of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JN Darby, 'On the Formation of Churches' Collected Writings vol.1 p.149-152&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114621422305602503?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114621422305602503/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114621422305602503' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114621422305602503'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114621422305602503'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-children-of-god-have-nothing.html' title='J.N. Darby- &apos;The Children of God have Nothing to do but to Meet Together in the Name of the Lord&apos;'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114616094606418236</id><published>2006-04-27T11:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-27T11:02:26.566-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/04/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award_27.html"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week's NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My award to countries in which removing shoes in homes is customary.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114616094606418236?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/2006/04/this-weeks-national-etiquette-award_27.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114616094606418236/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114616094606418236' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114616094606418236'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114616094606418236'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/shoes-off-at-door-please-this-weeks.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please: This Week&apos;s NATIONAL ETIQUETTE AWARD'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114608814077149417</id><published>2006-04-26T14:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-26T14:49:00.783-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Revelation 13</title><content type='html'>J.N. Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In chapter 13 we have the clear and full development of Satan's instruments of evil. They are two- the ten-horned and the two-horned beasts. To the first the dragon, who swept with his tail a third part of the stars to earth, Satan under the form of the Roman Empire, gave his throne and much authority. [See Footnote #15] The second not only wielded the first power administratively before him, but was the active power of evil to lead men to recognize the first, and therein the dragon. The beast is the original Roman Empire, but largely modified and in a new character. It has perfect completeness in its forms of government or heads but is composed of ten kingdoms, indicating also, I doubt not, imperfect administrative completeness. It has not twelve horns; it is incomplete. Seven would be completeness of a higher kind. The Lamb had seven horns; the woman, twelve stars on her head. One is perfectness in itself; the other administratively in man. Seven is the highest prime number (you cannot make it); twelve, the most perfectly divisible, composed of the same elements, but multiplied, not added as a simple number. So four is finite perfection, as is a square and still more a cube, perfectly the same all ways but finite. But the beast had names of blasphemy. It was the open enemy of God and His Christ. It absorbed the previous empires and represented them. The dragon, Satan's direct power in the form of the heathen Roman Empire, gave his throne and power to this new beast. It was not of God. God owned no power on the earth now the assembly was gone, till He took His own. The earth was at war with Him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the beast's heads (I doubt not the Imperial) was seen as wounded to death, but healed. The Imperial head was restored and the world was in admiration; and they worship the dragon as giving the beast his power. Nothing in their eyes equals the beast; but God is wholly thrown out in the earth. The beast is given to have the greatest pretensions in his language and outrage against God. He blasphemed God, His name and dwelling-place, and the heavenly saints-all Christianity, and the God of it. The dragon had been cast out from heaven; the raptured saints had been received there. He blasphemed, but could only blaspheme them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As regards those who dwelt on earth (for the division was not merely a spiritual one now), all worshiped the beast, save the elect-those who had been written from the foundation of the world in the Lamb's book of life. Human resistance by force was not the path of obedience. Here the patience and faith of the saints were shewn. He who took the sword would perish by it; it is never Christ's way, but unresisting patience; but the beast who did would perish. This then was the imperial power, a blasphemous power set up by Satan, with the place of the old Roman Empire, which represented all four, modified in form, but the imperial head restored. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there was a second beast; it rose not out of the mass of peoples (the sea) to be an empire, but out of the already formed organization with which God had to say as such. It had the form of Messiah's kingdom on earth, two horns like a lamb; but it was the direct power of Satan. He who with a divinely taught ear heard it speak heard the voice of Satan at once. All the power of the first beast it exercises before it; is, with its power, its minister, and makes the earth and the dwellers on it worship it (that is, the Roman Empire restored to its head). It is Antichrist, the false Christ of Satan, who subjects the earth to the Satanic Roman Empire. He does great wonders, as to give men as good proof of the beast's title before men, as Elijah did of Jehovah's. Compare 2 Thessalonians 2, where the man of sin gives the same proofs if lying ones, that Jesus did of being the Christ. He deceives the dwellers on earth by his miracles, making them set up an image to him. This image he gives breath to; so that it speaks and causes those to be killed who do not worship it. All likewise were obliged to take the stamp and the mark of the beast's service in their work, or open profession, and no man was allowed to traffic who had not the name of the beast as a mark. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such is the power which has the character of Messiah's kingdom in its form, is animated with the fullest energy of Satan, and, recognizing the public power which Satan had set up in the world, will have every one bow to it, none to traffic without acknowledging it. And all will, save the elect. The anti-priestly power of Satan in the heavens is over; royalty and prophecy as yet remain to him, in opposition to Christ who has not yet appeared. These he assumes but he does not and cannot set aside the power of the Gentiles-that remains for Christ to do- but sets it up as his delegate; and, as the apostate Jews of old, so now that people, save the elect remnant, as his instruments bow to it and minister to it. Thus you have all Satan's power exercised. But, in setting up his Messiah, he is obliged to deceive; and advances by his miracles of deceit what he cannot set aside-the Gentile power; and subjects the Jews to idolatry and to the Gentiles; and all the Gentiles themselves dwelling on the earth to the depository of Satan's authority -the first beast. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a singular state of things, far from Jewish feelings and modern Gentile hopes; but the unclean spirit of idolatry is to return to his house. Signs, not truth, will govern the superstitious mind of man; they will be given up to believe a lie. Here, though he takes the character of Christ in his kingdom, it is chiefly his action on the Gentiles which is spoken of; the Jews are mixed up with them, as we see in Isaiah 66 and Daniel. It is a liberal time, but one of most complete tyranny as regards all who do not bow to Satan's power and the ordinances established by him. What characterises it is the absence of truth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As regards the number of the beast, I have no doubt that it will be very simple to the godly, when the beast is there, and the time of spiritually judging it comes, and that name will practically guide those who have to do with him. Till then, the speculations of men are not of much value; Irenaeus's old one of "Dateinos" is as good as any." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;'Footnotes for Revelation 13&lt;br /&gt;15: We are not to be surprised, therefore, if the beast at the end had only local empire, though originally God had given universal empire to the beats: how widely exercised we know.'&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114608814077149417?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114608814077149417/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114608814077149417' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114608814077149417'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114608814077149417'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-revelation-13.html' title='J.N. Darby on Revelation 13'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114599672222419293</id><published>2006-04-25T13:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.667-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Church Membership</title><content type='html'>J.N. Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"There is another thing as to which our brother admits a principle, which tells all that I could wish on the subject. 'If I am a member of the whole body,' he says (p41), 'I am a member of the parts of that body.' I insist on this. A Christian does become a member of a local church (if, however, one can admit this expression of 'member of a church', for it is now owned to be unscriptural); he is a member of the parts of the body, if he is a member of the body. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing more simple; we cannot become what we are already; and according to Mr. Rochat, if I am a member of the whole body, I am a member of the parts of this body, which meet in divers places: it is not aquestion of becoming such- I am such already. This is the priciple I have always maintained, and on which I have always acted. By the very fact that I am a Christian, I have all the claims of a member of the body, wherever I may be found. It is not aright I acquire by joining a particular body; it is a right which I posess as any member of the body of Christ. Let brethren weigh well this priciple, which Mr. Rochat asserts, and on which I insist. Practically the whole qustion between us is thereby decided.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Rochat also admits that the expression of 'a member of a church' is not scriptural. We know how much the habits of brethren have been formed from that expression, and how much it has guided their conduct; so that in many localities, if a person did not declare himself member of a church, he was not admitted among brethren to partake of the Lord's supper. It was not enough to be a member of Christ, a faithful Christian, owned of all."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remarks on the State of the Church Collected Writings vol.1, p.241&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The Holy Ghost was upon earth to establish the closest and most formal union between the members of the body; they were members one of another. This unity was recognised among them. All knew that a Christian was not of the world, because he was of the Church. If one member suffer, all the members suffer with it. This unity was truly and distinctly manifested in each locality. There was the church of each place, as the very addresses of several epistles shew. But this local unity proved the universal unity. Any one member of it was theby a member of the universal unity. Teachers, evangelists, apostles, Timothy, Titus, Paul did not belong to one church more than another. The gifts were members of the body. The idea of a church is not found in the Bible. The thought there is very different; it is that of members of thr body of Christ. But these 'joints and bands', which might exercise their activity in local churches, proved the unity of the whole body, and made it visible and perfectly perceptible to the world."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the Church? Collected Writings vol.3, p.390&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Nevertheless, if we speak of those at Corinth, he says 'Ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.' If a Christian member of Christ's body went from Ephesus to Corinth, he would have been equally and necessarilly also member of Christ's body in this latter assembly. Christians are not members of a church, but of Christ. The eye, the ear, the foot, or any other member which was at Corinth, was equally such at Ephesus. In the word we do not find the idea of members of a church, but of Christ."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the Church as it was at the Beginning? And What is its Present State? Collected Writings vol.14, p.83&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Member of a church is a thing unknown to scripture. The words, the thing, the idea are unknown there. Christians are members of Christ, and if you please, one of another, and of nothing else. And membership of anything else is only schism, and denying the true meaning of the word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A flock other than God's flock is equally unknown. God's flock alone is known in scripture, of which Christ is the chief shepherd. There is one flock, and only one, meeting it may be in different localities, and elders belonging to these localities; but all the faithful there at any time were of it, because they were of God's flock. A pastor and his flock, in the modern sense, is wholly unknown to scripture, and an utter denial of its contents, if it be not of the words 'I am of Paul, and I of Apollos,' etc. These statements I leave for every honestminded saint to see whether they are according to scripture or not."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Review of a Sermon by the Rev GM Innes Collected Writings vol.14, p.255&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114599672222419293?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114599672222419293/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114599672222419293' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114599672222419293'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114599672222419293'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-church-membership.html' title='J.N. Darby on Church Membership'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114598898009202980</id><published>2006-04-25T11:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:50:56.491-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby Rejected Mary's Perpetual Virginity</title><content type='html'>I was pleased to discover today, while reading John Nelson Darby's 'Notes and Comments' volume 3, that he rejected the Perpetual Virginity of Mary, our Lord's mother. I had thought it possible that Darby might have held to this unscriptural idea, like many of the Protestants of the 19th century. I have absolutely no idea why so many Protestants clung on to the idea that Mary remained a virgin after giving birth to Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J.N.Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"As regards Church traditions, it is wonderful what futile things they are. Beausobre has, I think, clearly shown that, in large measure, they come from Apocryphal writings, invented to promote some devilish object or another, particularly the famous Leucius Charinus's. The virginity of Mary is treated by the Fathers on wholly other ground, and quite different stories invented at first to maintain it than the bold ground, taken at last, of Church authority. I have very little or no doubt, she had a family by Joseph."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notes and Comments vol.3, p.303&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly, Darby maintained that James, the brother of our Lord, was the same person as James, the son of Alphaeus and a cousin of Jesus (Notes and Comments, vol.6, p.375). Nevertheless he hastens to add:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"This does not affect the question as to Mary's having a family after the birth of Christ, nor her living with Joseph, of which the Scripture leaves no doubt."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Scofield Reference Bible also identifies James the Lord's brother as James, the son of Alphaeus.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114598898009202980?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114598898009202980/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114598898009202980' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598898009202980'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598898009202980'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-rejected-marys-perpetual.html' title='J.N. Darby Rejected Mary&apos;s Perpetual Virginity'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114598883968701033</id><published>2006-04-25T11:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-25T11:13:59.686-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Education</title><content type='html'>J.N. Darby wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We are bound to do good to every man, whoever it is; but the pretension of men is, that at bottom there is something good in a man, and so ultimately you can make anything out of him. And so they are working education for one great thing. Of course, everybody has to learn something, but the common idea of education now is an infidel idea. They give everybody votes, and then it follows that they must be educated in order to know how to use their vote. The whole thing is nonsense- a mere question of the passions of the flesh. In some states they compel education. God has committed children to parents, and the parent is bound to care for the child. No state can come in between God and the parent. If the state come in, you will have to leave the state. It is from no resistance to the power that I say so, for that would be wrong directly; but it is the word of God that gives the state its authority, and therefore I submit or go. If you were compelled to be a soldier, if it is against your conscience, you must be shot, or something else: that is all."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Collected Writings vol.26, p.361&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love the way that guy put things.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114598883968701033?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114598883968701033/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114598883968701033' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598883968701033'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598883968701033'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-education.html' title='J.N. Darby on Education'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114598873672727375</id><published>2006-04-25T11:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.667-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>How Many Members of the Exclusive Brethren does it take to Change a Light- Bulb?</title><content type='html'>You must have heard countless variations on the light bulb joke. Here is my version.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. How many members of the Exclusive Brethren does it take to change a light-bulb?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. None. There is no longer power in the Church to change the light-bulb, due to its ruin and apostasy. All that remains for believers to do is to await the coming of the Lord in the darkness, with humility; not thinking that we have power to change that which the Lord has allowed to fall into ruin.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114598873672727375?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114598873672727375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114598873672727375' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598873672727375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598873672727375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/how-many-members-of-exclusive-brethren.html' title='How Many Members of the Exclusive Brethren does it take to Change a Light- Bulb?'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114598863745633364</id><published>2006-04-25T11:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.668-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>The Plymouth Brethren and Baptism</title><content type='html'>Though the Open Brethren are firm supporters of Believer's Baptism, the majority of Exclusive Brethren divisions practise Household Baptism, which involves the baptism of infants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has always been a principle of the Brethren that the age and mode of baptism should not be a barrier to fellowship and participation in assembly life. Both George Muller of Bristol and Robert Chapman of Barnstable had been Baptists, but quickly came to believe that those who upheld Infant Baptism should not be excluded from fellowship. Likewise on the Exclusive side, J.N. Darby, a Paedobaptist and G.V. Wigram, a baptist had close fellowship. Darby was once asked what Wigram thought about baptism. Darby replied 'He knows how to keep his mouth shut.' This is not the most polite of Darby's remarks, but it does reflect the refusal of the Brethren to allow baptism to generate controversy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Brethren hold that baptism is a matter for one's conscience. If one believes that the Scriptures teach one position, then one should be a t liberty to maintain it. To force the conscience of the saints by making one position compulsory would be considered a denial of the unity of the Body, for the Church is united by Christ not by doctrinal agreement.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114598863745633364?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114598863745633364/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114598863745633364' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598863745633364'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598863745633364'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/plymouth-brethren-and-baptism.html' title='The Plymouth Brethren and Baptism'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114598192039304130</id><published>2006-04-25T09:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:50:56.491-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Popery'/><title type='text'>Ironic? What Would Darby Have Thought?</title><content type='html'>In the 1840s there was much tension in the Brethren movement between John Nelson Darby and a younger man, Benjamin Wills Newton. This conflict reached it's climax when Newton was condemned by the entire Brethren for his peculiar views on Jesus Christ's moral position prior to the cross. Initially the conflict between Newton and Darby had concerned eschatology. Darby introduced the Pre-Tribulational rapture, which Newton regarded as erroneous. Newton was Post-Tribulational Premillennial and disliked Dispensational departures from Covenant theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rather strangely, modern Pre-Tribulational Dispensationalists have adopted aspects of Newton's eschatology which Darby disagreed with. These include:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- A heavy literal approach to the interpretation of prophecy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The identification of the Anti-Christ as the first, rather than the second beast and the identification fo the False Prophet as a character distinct from the Anti-Christ and the Beast. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Viewing the Anti-Christ as a Gentile, rather than a Jewish figure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The expectation of a re-built Babylon in the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- A tendency to downplay the role of Roman Catholicism in Bible Prophecy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These can be seen in the popular Left-Behind books. I suspect that part of the reason for these departures from Darby in modern Dispensationalism result from a desire not to seem Anti-Semitic or excessively Anti-Catholic.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114598192039304130?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114598192039304130/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114598192039304130' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598192039304130'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114598192039304130'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/ironic-what-would-darby-have-thought.html' title='Ironic? What Would Darby Have Thought?'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114597937402856888</id><published>2006-04-25T08:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-25T09:16:33.090-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shoes Off at the Door, Please</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/"&gt;Shoes Off at the Door, Please&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The IBEX Scribe has now become a member of this blog. It is no longer a solo project.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114597937402856888?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://shoesoffatthedoorplease.blogspot.com/' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114597937402856888/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114597937402856888' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114597937402856888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114597937402856888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/shoes-off-at-door-please.html' title='Shoes Off at the Door, Please'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114587115666972746</id><published>2006-04-24T02:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-24T02:32:36.673-07:00</updated><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on Romans 11</title><content type='html'>Darby wrote in his Synopsis of the Books of the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romans 11&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'Hereupon the question is immediately raised, has God then rejected His people? To this chapter 11 is the answer. The apostle gives three proofs that it is by no means the case. Firstly, he is himself an Israelite; there is a remnant whom God has reserved, as in the days of Elias-a proof of the constant favour of the Lord, of the interest He takes in His people, even when they are unfaithful; so that when the prophet, the most faithful and energetic among them, knew not where to find one who was true to God besides himself, God had His eyes upon the remnant who had not bowed the knee to Baal. Secondly, the call of the Gentiles, and their substitution for Israel, was not the definitive rejection of the latter in the counsels of God; for God had done it to provoke Israel to jealousy. It was not, then, for their rejection. Thirdly, the Lord would come forth out of Sion. and turn away the iniquities of Jacob. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That which the apostle, or rather which the Holy Ghost, says on this point requires to be looked at in more detail. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The apostle, in quoting the case of Elias, shews that when Israel was in such a state that even Elias pleaded against them, yet God had not rejected them, He had reserved for Himself seven thousand men. This was the election of sovereign grace. It was the same thing now. But it was by grace, and not by works. The election then, has obtained the blessing, and the rest was blinded. Even as it was written, "God hath given them the spirit of slumber," etc. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Had they then stumbled that they should fall? No! But through their fall salvation is come to the Gentiles to provoke Israel to jealousy-a second proof that it was not for their rejection. But if their diminishing and fall was a blessing to the Gentiles, what should not the fruit be of their restoration? If the first-fruits are holy, so is the lump; if the root, the tree also. Now, as to the continued chain of those who enjoy the promises in this world, Abraham was the root, and not the Gentiles; Israel, the natural stock and branches. And here is that which happened in the good olive-tree of promise in this world, of which Abraham was the root (God Himself the source of leaf and fruit), and Israel the stem and the tree. There had been some bad branches, and they had been cut off; and others from the Gentiles grafted in, in their place, who thus enjoyed the richness natural to the tree of promise. But it was on the principle of faith that they, being of the wild olive-tree, had been grafted in. Many of the Israelite branches, the natural heirs of the promises, had been cut off because of their unbelief; for when the fulfilment of the promises was offered them, they rejected it. They rested on their own righteousness, and despised the goodness of God. Thus the Gentiles, made partakers of the promises, stood on the principle of faith. But if they abandoned this principle, they should lose their place in the tree of promise, even as the unbelieving Jews had lost theirs. Goodness was to be their portion in this dispensation of God's government, with regard to those who had part in the enjoyment of His promises, if they continued in this goodness; if not, cutting off. This had happened to the Jews; it should be the same with the Gentiles if they did not continue in that goodness. Such is the government of God, with regard to that which stood as His tree on the earth. But there was a positive counsel of God accomplished in that which took place, namely, the partial blinding of Israel (for they were not rejected) until all the Gentiles who were to have part in the blessing of these days should have come in. After this Israel should be saved as a whole; it should not be individuals spared and added to the assembly, in which Israel had no longer any place as a nation; they should be saved as a whole, as Israel. Christ shall come forth from Sion as the seat of His power, and shall turn away iniquity from Jacob, God pardoning them all transgressions. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the third proof that Israel was not rejected. For while enemies, as concerning the gospel at the present time, they are still beloved for the fathers' sakes. For that which God has once chosen and called He never casts off. He does not repent of His counsels, nor of the call which gives them effect. But if the counsel of God remains unchangeable, the way in which it is accomplished brings out the marvellous wisdom of God. The Gentiles had long continued in the disobedience of unbelief. God comes in in grace. The Jews opposed themselves to the actings of grace. They lose all right to the promises through this unbelief, so that they must receive the effect of the promise on the footing of pure mercy and the sovereign grace of God, [See Footnote #52] in the same way as the poor Gentile. For He had shut them all up in unbelief, that it might be pure mercy to all. Therefore it is that the apostle exclaims, O depth of wisdom and knowledge! The promises are fulfilled, and the pretension to human righteousness annihilated; the Jews who have lost everything receive all on the true ground of the goodness of God. Their apparent loss of all is but the means of their receiving all from sovereign grace, instead of having it by virtue of human righteousness, or an unforfeited promise. All is grace: yet God is ever faithful, and that in spite of man's unfaithfulness. Man is blessed; the Jew receives the effect of the promise; but both the one and the other have to attribute it to the pure mercy of God. There is nothing about the assembly here: it is the tree of promise, and those who in virtue of their position have part successively in the enjoyment of the promises of earth. The unbelieving Jews were never cut off from the church, they were never in it. They had been in the position of natural heirs of the right to the promises. The assembly is not the Jews' own olive-tree according to nature, so that they should be grafted into it again. Nothing can be plainer: the chain of those who had a right to the promises from Abraham was Israel; some of the branches were then cut off. The tree of promise remains on the earth: the Gentiles are grafted into it in place of the Jews, they also become unfaithful (that is to say, the case is supposed), and they would in their turn be cut off, and the Jews be reinstated in the old olive-tree, according to the promises and in order to enjoy them; but it is in pure mercy. It is clearly not by the gospel they get the blessing; for, as touching the gospel, they are enemies for the Gentiles' sake; as touching election, beloved for the fathers' sake. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remark further here an important principle: the enjoyment of privileges by position makes us responsible for them, without saying the individual was born again. The Jewish branch was in the tree of promise and broken off: so the Gentiles. There was nothing vital or real; but they were in the place of blessing, "partakers of the root and fatness of the olive tree," by being grafted in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These communications of the mind of God end this portion of the book, namely, that in which the apostle reconciles sovereign grace shewn to sinners (putting all on a level in the common ruin of sin) with the especial privileges of the people of Israel, founded on the faithfulness of God. They had lost everything as to right. God would fulfil His promises in grace and by mercy.' &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Footnotes for Romans 11&lt;br /&gt;52: Verse 31 should be translated, "Even so these [the Jews] have now been unbelieving with regard to your mercy, in order that they should receive mercy" (or that they should be the objects of mercy)-"your mercy," that is to say, the grace in Christ which extended to the Gentiles. Thus the Jews were the objects of mercy, having forfeited all right to enjoy the effect of the promise. God would not fail to fulfil it. He bestows it on them in mercy at the end, when He has brought in the fulness of the Gentiles.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114587115666972746?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114587115666972746/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114587115666972746' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114587115666972746'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114587115666972746'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-romans-11.html' title='J.N. Darby on Romans 11'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114587082328775452</id><published>2006-04-24T02:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.668-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Excommunication and Marital Separation</title><content type='html'>The most disturbing thing about that Raven/ Taylor Exclusive Brethren is their rigid insistence on the separation of married couples in the event of one spouse being put out of fellowship. Even the Jehovah's Witnesses are not so rigig as to enforce marital separation in these circumstances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was not the position of John Nelson Darby, the foudner of the Exclusive Brethren:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby said:&lt;br /&gt;'Take a wife who's husband is put out. It may seem awkward, but her action is not keeping company with him as a case of will; it is a matter of subjection to authority.' Notes of Readings on 1 Corinthians, Collected Writings Vol.26, p.220&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby is typically opaque here. I take that to mean that a wife does not remain with her husband because she wants to and loves him, but because she is subject to his authority, which the excommunication does not cancel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby is clearer in another set of readings in the same volume:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'The separation applies to everything. Not to those who are married; we have instruction elsewhere about such, not to leave the one the other: "for what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?"' Notes of Readings on 2 Corinthians, Collected Writings, Vol.26, p.347&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, Darby does not appear to take the position that excommunication must lead to maritial separation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114587082328775452?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114587082328775452/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114587082328775452' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114587082328775452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114587082328775452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/excommunication-and-marital-separation.html' title='Excommunication and Marital Separation'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114587075926493200</id><published>2006-04-24T02:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.669-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>John Nelson Darby and the Early Brethren</title><content type='html'>John Nelson Darby was born in 1800 to a wealthy Irish family who lived in Leap Castle in the Wicklow Mountains. His father was a merchant with business in Russia. He received an excellent education, excelling at Trinity College, Dublin in the study of Classics. He began a brief career as a barrister, but felt a calling to the Anglican ministry. His father disapproved of this and disowned him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby put great devotion into his work as a curate in the Church of Ireland. He spent much time fasting and lived a rather ascetic lifestyle. He was not during this time an Evangelical, rather he favoured Sacramental, High Church theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1827. Darby came into conflict with William Magee, the Archbishop of Dublin. Magee gave a charge petitioning Parliament for more protection for the Church against Catholic insurgency. He also demanded that converts to the Anglican Church from Catholicism should be required to take an oath of loyalty to the Crown. Darby was outraged by this nad wrote a letter of protest to Magee. He argued that the Church is an heavenly body that must be separate from the world. However, little notice was taken of Darby's protest. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same year, Darby suffered a riding accident. During his recuperation, he began to re-asses his theology. He came to a realisation that Christ had sat down in Heaven and that he himself was identified wioth Christ, the Man in Heaven. Thus, he could be assured that his sins were forgiven. He became far more Evangelical and Calvinistic and abandoned Sacramentalist views. He also began to distinguish more strongly the true Church and Christendom, which he felt had fallen into apostasy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby went to stay in Dublin in order to receive medical treatment. There he encountered several groups of Christians who met for prayer and Bible study. Some were Anglicans, others nonconformists. They included John Giffard Bellett, Edwin Cronin (an ex-Catholic) and Anthony Norris Groves (an ex-Anglcian missionary). They strongly believed in the unity of all Christians and they began to break bread together outside of denominational structures. These man were probably deeply concerned about the worldly state of the Established Church in Ireland. They were also likely dispappointed by the failure of Evangelicalism to bring about any change in this state of affairs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dublin meetings were the nucleus of the Brethren movement that somehow (historians are baffled by this)exploded across Ireland and England with the formation of new assemblies for worship and the breaking of bread. In this movement, Darby adopted an almost apostolic role, writing many letters to the new assemblies giving them advise. Important new assemblies included the one at Plymouth (where we get the misleading name for the Brethren), Barnstable (the ministry of Robert Chapman) and Bristol (George Muller, founder of Bristol orphanage).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The leading Brethren took part in a number of conferences at the home of Lady Theodosia Powerscourt, a wealthy young widow, to whom Darby became briefly engaged during his thirties, though they never married. The Powerscourt conferences were intitially a non-sectarian affair, but eventually all but the Brethren dropped out of them. They gave Darby a space and a platform to develope his views on Bible Prophecy. He shifted from a conventional Historicism to a complex system that became known as Dispensationalism. He introduced the doctrine of the Pre-Tribualtional Rapture, a point which lead to some controversy within the Brethren.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darby made his ministry international in 1837, when he went to Switzerland. There he became involved in controversies with the dissenting Churches there. He planted a number of Brethren assemblies there, and the Brethren still have a presence in Switzerland.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114587075926493200?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114587075926493200/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114587075926493200' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114587075926493200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114587075926493200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/john-nelson-darby-and-early-brethren.html' title='John Nelson Darby and the Early Brethren'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114580638408571035</id><published>2006-04-23T08:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-23T08:33:04.086-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Working for an Exclusive Brethren Company.</title><content type='html'>The company I work for is a family business. The family that own it are members of the Taylorite division of the Exclusive Brethren. This is a very strict Fundamentalist Protestant sect. That I work for this company is incredibly conincidental (the Lord's blessings, I suppose), as the subject of my PhD thesis is John Nelson Darby, who began and lead the Exclusive Brethren in the 19th Century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The faith of the owners does make a difference to its life. The rules of the sect forbid the use of computers; hence these cannot be allowed on the premises. However, the company makes use of a computer that is operated by the company's accountant in a separate premise. The reason for this rule is that it is believed such machinery is part of the Anti-Christ system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not everybody who works for the company is a member (for obvious reasons it will be apparent I am not). The Exclusive sisters who work there wear skirts and long hair and put on headscarves when they leave, in compliance with the sect's rules.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The family are nice people. I am unhappy with some aspects of the Taylorite Exclusives, but I greatly respect their zeal and commitment. I think Christians ought to be more separate from the world in general. I agree strongly with their insistence on long hair and skirts for women and their commitment to Biblical headcovering (though some of the Exclusive sisters wear headscarves that do not really cover their heads as 1 Corinthians requires).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114580638408571035?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114580638408571035/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114580638408571035' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114580638408571035'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114580638408571035'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/working-for-exclusive-brethren-company.html' title='Working for an Exclusive Brethren Company.'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114580616034206147</id><published>2006-04-23T08:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:47:12.669-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>J.N. Darby on the Signs of Apostasy in an Assembly</title><content type='html'>J.N. Darby wrote this when describing the disorders and errors that had entered the assembly in Plymouth. Darby renounced this congregation. The aftershocks of this lead to the schism between the Open and Exclusive Brethren.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;'The first sign of weakness is the gathering itself becoming the object of attention, instead of their being a people enjoying the blessedness of their position by the relationship and fellowship it gave them with Christ, who had become and was their abiding object, revealing withal God the Father. But I would speak with more detail, for this is rather the occasion of Satan's power than the fruit of it as a positive word. Where this last is, you will find holy spirtual affections broken and set aside togive place to the claim of the institution. And so are even natural affections, whilst the latter are given all their force and weight in practise to hold persons in the institution, and even largely used for this purpose. In the same manner, people are won and brought undeer the influence that acts there by them. The activity and zeal will be for the system. It will be to make proselytes, and establish them in what will keep them there, not to save souls or to lead them to Christ. There will generally be a good deal of acting &lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; or depreciation of others who even hold the faith of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paramount importance will be given to the views which distinguish that institution, not to what saves or to what brings faith to the test by the revelation of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good works will be found generally much pressed, and that in asystematic way in which it works for and into the system. Truth, I mean truthfulness, will ever be wanting. This I have always found where the work of the enemy is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connected with this will be the pressing of much certain doctrines, when it is safe, which form the bond of the institution, and denying in them the alleged meaning, or explaining them away, when they are pressed on by those who detect the evil. This anyone conversant with the subject cannot but have noticed. The denial of the &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;doctrine positively stated where the influence exists, as held in any such sense or its explanation, is the very such thing that marks the power of evil. With this will be found the attributing to those who hold the truth, every kind of doctrine they abhor, where there is influence enough to have their statements believed. Popery is the plain enough of this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Another mark, whatever the apparent devotedness, yea, and real devotedness sometimes, is that the spirit of the world is acquiesced in. The poor will be nursed as instruments, and the rich (and so the clever) flatterd for support. Another mark is the extreme difficulty in fixing them to any definite statement, save as they have power to enforce it; and then it is bound on others; and there is the sternest rejection of all who do not bow. Calumny of the saints and of their doctrines has &lt;/strong&gt;been known from the testimony of the blessed Lord Himself onward. The influence of females and of money will be found largely employed.'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was later discovered that serious doctrinal error was being taught in this assembly. Namely the teaching that Christ had entered into the guilt of both Adam and apostate Israel as a result of the incarnation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think there are a lot of churhces today that would fit Darby's description here. Even some which claim to follow Darby's teaching.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114580616034206147?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114580616034206147/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114580616034206147' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114580616034206147'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114580616034206147'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/jn-darby-on-signs-of-apostasy-in.html' title='J.N. Darby on the Signs of Apostasy in an Assembly'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26792140.post-114580542949045862</id><published>2006-04-23T08:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T13:43:10.052-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brethren history'/><title type='text'>Introduction</title><content type='html'>I am carrying out doctoral research into the ecclesiology of John Nelson Darby. I created this blog to raise awareness of his theology and its relevance to today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most of the material posted here is also posted on my &lt;a href="http://dyspraxicfundamentalist.blogspot.com/"&gt;main blog&lt;/a&gt; or my &lt;a href="http://dyspraxicfundamentalistbp.blogspot.com/"&gt;Bible prophecy blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26792140-114580542949045862?l=jndarby.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/feeds/114580542949045862/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=26792140&amp;postID=114580542949045862' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114580542949045862'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/26792140/posts/default/114580542949045862'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://jndarby.blogspot.com/2006/04/introduction.html' title='Introduction'/><author><name>Matthew Celestis</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_45CQ84jr9DQ/TLmpY26CRdI/AAAAAAAABjY/OQihR9zXRt4/S220/Nikeflipflop.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry></feed>
